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    Default Re: Serious question for you guys about intro-extroversion

    At the risk of sounding too negative. I will be the devil's advocate here...

    Can an introvert turn himself into an extrovert? Can a naturally shy person become an ace salesman?

    You know yourself pretty good, so you would know as good as us. Can you get out there and hustle? Maybe even do cold calls?

    It's one thing to give investment advice when times are up, it's another thing to do it when times are down.

    Myself, as somewhat of an introvert, I must admit to being somewhat skeptical. At best these things can take time. For myself, starting out on a career by taking a job that would go against my natural grain, especially during economic down times, sounds like a recipe for stress.

    Sounds like commision work. Is there a base salary?

    p.s. you will need to really believe in what you are doing, IMO

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    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
    At the risk of sounding too negative. I will be the devil's advocate here...

    Can an introvert turn himself into an extrovert? Can a naturally shy person become an ace salesman?

    You know yourself pretty good, so you would know as good as us. Can you get out there and hustle? Maybe even do cold calls?

    It's one thing to give investment advice when times are up, it's another thing to do it when times are down.

    Myself, as somewhat of an introvert, I must admit to being somewhat skeptical. At best these things can take time. For myself, starting out on a career by taking a job that would go against my natural grain, especially during economic down times, sounds like a recipe for stress.

    Sounds like commision work. Is there a base salary?

    p.s. you will need to really believe in what you are doing, IMO
    All great points. The current global financial meltdown certainly won't get you new money, but it's a great time to poach because a lot of people are pissed off at their current advisor for losing them money (the natural perception).

    This is a salaried job, plus milestone bonuses, for about 18months, and it then becomes commissioned, plus what you get as trailer fees based on the size of your book of assets.

    It's not uncommon for those who succeed to be making 200k a year. But you've godda make it, and only about 25% of those who try, do.

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    Default Re: Serious question for you guys about intro-extroversion

    I've heard of a medication called Relora that is actually supposed to really help lower social anxiety. It isn't an anti-depressant so doesn't have any of the side effects.. It's more of a natural remedy type thing, but a lot of people report that it really helped them..

    I also think you can fake extroversion, but at the same time I think you can turn it into extroversion, but it takes work..

    Like if you picture yourself thrown into a room with 2 or 3 stangers, and feel you should be talking to them, but there is just that barrier there... You kind of think twice about anything that comes into your head, or you think of something but just put it off, or ask if it's the right thing to say etc. And end up just staying silent.... Well that's definate introversion. Obviously..

    When you get to be extroverted, it's not that you feel any of those things and push through them, it's just that they have dissappeared... You're thrown into the room with a couple of strangers, and suddenly your mouth has talked before you've even given it logical permission to say anything.. The barrier and resistance is gone, and it's as if another person has taken over you and is on autopilot.. You can even witness in a way and feel like, wow I would never normally just come out and ask someone that, or say that much to a stranger.. But that's what it is... It's an easiness that takes you over instead of you feeling like their are barriers that are impossible to cross...

    I have in no way become an extrovert, but have practiced and put a bit of work into the area, and occassionaly i'll be in situations, where questions and words and stories just come bouncing out of me as if another person was saying them, while my mind is just shut off... Even while i'm saying it another part of me can be saying to myself, wow I never just talk this much... That part that is doing the talking and letting the words go is actually the REAL you that has always been there and wanted to get out... It's a strange feeling, but as soon as you start to work on this area, it'll happen more and more often, and you'll feel that it's not like you are breaking through the barrier, or going over it, but that it doesn't exist anymore, and a part of you takes advantage of it before you even get a chance to question it....

    I'll try to think of a couple of ways to work on it... I'm sure there are better ones than any that I come up with, but here are some that have helped me..

    1) This is absolutely the most important one I have ever done - Record yourself on a video talking... At first it feels weird, like your being watched and you get like, nervous and can't think what to say, and keep getting stuck in your head.. Just plan on talking for 5 minutes, about whatever you like.. You're day, your job. etc... Whatever.. For the sake of it, make it into a video diary type thing.. THEN do another one.. You can do it 20 minutes later, or the next day or whenever.. You'll feel that it gets easier and easier, and ever time you do it you get a little bit more out of your head... Pretend you are just talking to a friend...
    I actually do this on my mobile phone whenever i'm in my car.. I put the phone in where the instrument panel is aimed at me, hit record, then talk the whole way to my destination... Then even if I didn't have my phone, I would pretend I did and talk as if I was recording it..

    Just doing this one thing alone made me talk so much more when I was around people.. It just made it a natural thing... Because if you are an introvert, you probably don't talk to much.. You talk a lot in your head, but not a lot out loud.. And when you do talk out loud and it's in a situation where others could judge you, you end up thinking about it to much.. So this exercise just makes it natural to talk, about anything. And you get used to your own voice and telling stories and just saying whatever... It makes a huge difference,,, and while you're doing these video's or just talking as if it's to someone in your car, something clicks in you're brain or belief system that says it's okay to talk out loud around people and no one is going to care.... THAT is what brings out that part of you that just goes ahead and says something when you're with people that you wouldn't normally say...


    Anyway, that is a huge one for me and will be for you if you try doing.. If you feel silly doing it, THAT'S GREAT because it'll work even better when you start feeling natural doing it...

    Trust me, sitting in silence in your car for an hour, then getting out and expecting to talk to strangers is pretty difficult.. But talk non stop in you're car for an hour as if someone else was there, and when you get out, you'll find it even more difficult to be silent.. Even around strangers..


    I'm going to think of some more things that may help or have helped me... It takes a bit of work on the side, but it's fun and it's really really fast before you start seeing results just happen with absolutely no effort at all...
    Last edited by Dizaster; 11-12-2008 at 01:21 AM.

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