Manny Pacquiao hits much harder than Hoya?

[killersheep]

If it's your opinion that Roach said these things ("PAC hits much harder than Hoya") because of his deteriorating Parkinsons disease then I respect that... That's your own personal opinion...

We will see on December 6 ...
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Let's look at the facts then

1) Roach's Parkinsons is worse than last year, it's the way the disease works. Because of this the impact of PAC's punches will feel much greater than in the past.

2) Roach's salary IS contingent on PAC so to say anything that would give PAC doubt would endanger his own money.

3) Mitts flying off hands are a very common occurance and should not be considered a indicator of power.

Care to add anything?

1) Probably...

2) Roach already said he won't have any salary for this fight if PAC loses...

3) I already mentioned the actual indications of boxers' power in the perspective of the trainer (see my previous post)

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1) Thank you

2) Exactly so putting doubt in PAC's mind would be a bad idea, before the fight agreed?

3) Refer to counter stated in 1) and repeat.

[XaduBoxer]

Exactly so putting doubt in PAC's mind would be a bad idea, before the fight agreed?

Agree... but as I've said before, the hype won't matter to PAC... He's not a hype person... PAC's proven record and his acceptance of the fight is enough for me to have faith in his chances against Hoya... It's PAC who will fight Hoya inside the ring...

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[Spicoli]

Exactly so putting doubt in PAC's mind would be a bad idea, before the fight agreed?

Agree... but as I've said before, the hype won't matter to PAC... He's not a hype person... PAC's proven record and his acceptance of the fight is enough for me to have faith in his chances against Hoya... It's PAC who will fight Hoya inside the ring...

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Who is Oscar fighting again ? HYPE,the universal breakfast cereal

[killersheep]

Exactly so putting doubt in PAC's mind would be a bad idea, before the fight agreed?

Agree... but as I've said before, the hype won't matter to PAC... He's not a hype person... PAC's proven record and his acceptance of the fight is enough for me to have faith in his chances against Hoya... It's PAC who will fight Hoya inside the ring...

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Who is Oscar fighting again ? HYPE,the universal breakfast cereal

I'm not sure maybe we should start some more treads about it to possibly find out.

[No Contest]

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FightFan: Do you think the Mexicans are going to support Manny? I’m hearing a lot of rumblings about that.


Freddie Roach: Of course! Manny fights like a true Mexican warrior. They’ve never liked Oscar and he’s never really had their support and nothing is going to change there.
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lololololol, De La Hoya pissed off to many Mexicans with the JCC fights.

[leftylee]

PAC knocking out Roach's mitts did not happened on this training camp only... As I've pointed out, it happened many times in the past like when PAC trained for JMM and David Diaz... So you mean Roach and PAC were just acting all these times to generate the hype? I don't think so... Hype isn't in PAC's vocabulary as proven in his fight results...
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Pac groupies really do come out with comical shit

Is that all you can say? You better reinforced your opinion that Roach is lying rather than posting nonsense comments...
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Come on. Of course Roach is gonna say Pac hits harder. It's his fighter for fuck sake. Besides he split ways with Oscar, so it's pretty ovious who he's gonna choose.

You really are blinded by the facts cuz of groupie love.

[ono]

Oscar De La Hoya hits a bag during an open workout at his boxing training camp Wednesday, Nov. 12, 2008, in Big Bear, Calif. De La Hoya is preparing for his fight against Manny Pacquiao on Dec. 6 in Las Vegas.


Some of the media people noticed a bluish discoloration (black eye?) under Hoya's right eye... This could be what triggered the "Ortiz mauling Hoya" rumour...





Hoya also looks already dried up...

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Uncanny

[XaduBoxer]

Pac groupies really do come out with comical shit

Is that all you can say? You better reinforced your opinion that Roach is lying rather than posting nonsense comments...
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Come on. Of course Roach is gonna say Pac hits harder. It's his fighter for fuck sake. Besides he split ways with Oscar, so it's pretty obvious who he's gonna choose.

You really are blinded by the facts cuz of groupie love.

Much better arguments... except the last sentence...
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[leftylee]

congrats Sadddoboxer for doing well with your arguments. whew, I'm giving you the title for being the number 1 fan of Manny Pacquaio.

Lefty is seriously ill and can't make sane arguments that's why he resorts to neg reps.

Killersheep, positive reps for keeping your cool.

I won't let myself be affected by neg reps... I will just continue to discuss boxing...
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I just made it even with the positive reps.

[Mr140]

Please Oscar hits harder i can not believe still debating it i hope that Oscar just knocks him out in a round and fights some one elese.

[Chino]

Oh man. If Pac ends up winning this fight imagine Saddoboxer in this forum, oh boy! Nobody will be able to stop him
Hahahaha!

[XaduBoxer]

congrats Sadddoboxer for doing well with your arguments. whew, I'm giving you the title for being the number 1 fan of Manny Pacquaio.

Lefty is seriously ill and can't make sane arguments that's why he resorts to neg reps.

Killersheep, positive reps for keeping your cool.

I won't let myself be affected by neg reps... I will just continue to discuss boxing...
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I just made it even with the positive reps.

That's ridiculous... giving negative reps then even it up by giving positive reps... You're just wasting your rep points... unless you gave me positive reps coz you agree with my opinion this time around...
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[XaduBoxer]

Oh man. If Pac ends up winning this fight imagine Saddoboxer in this forum, oh boy! Nobody will be able to stop him
Hahahaha!

Promise I won't go crazy if PAC wins...

Just some maddening celebration...

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[bond007]

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FightFan: Do you think the Mexicans are going to support Manny? I’m hearing a lot of rumblings about that.


Freddie Roach: Of course! Manny fights like a true Mexican warrior. They’ve never liked Oscar and he’s never really had their support and nothing is going to change there.
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lololololol, De La Hoya pissed off to many Mexicans with the JCC fights.

That is true alot of us did not support him through out his career because how he beat a whashed up Gran Campeon Mexicano I mean come on Those JCC days where all exitement,
as for Pac maybe that is what is happening with him Philipines has never had a great fighter and right now that they have him its like he could fight Klitsco and they would swear Pac would stop him in the late rounds.

[Violent Demise]

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FightFan: Freddie, what do you think about how their strengths match up? I’ve seen you hitting the mitts with Oscar and you hit the mitts with Manny all the time. How do you feel they size up to one another in that regard?

FreddieRoach: Manny hits much harder. There’s no doubt about it. We have the advantage when it comes to the punch and there’s no doubt about that in my mind. We’ve also got the edge in activity and speed and Oscar, well he can’t pull the trigger anymore.




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Freddie is more brain dead than I thought