< David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

[Kev]

I didnt think about that with Haye I just didn't articulate it very well. Just saying, people were saying that about him (Lacy) a lot more then I've heard Haye fans brag on what he did in the amateurs. Like I said he has more pro credentials.

So no I articulated that fine it was just you who needed clarification.

I don't think you articulated it at all well Amat, I mean Haye had a better amatuer pedigree than Lacy, Lacy never won a medal at the World championships. And in being a two time and undisputed cruiserweight champ Haye is ALREADY leaps and bounds above Lacy in terms of acomplishments.

Lacy (and I love Jeff Lacy he's my fave American fighter) never beat a genuine world champ at super middle whereas Haye sparked the universally recognised champ in his own back yard then whupped one of the other champs in two rounds for good measure.

As much as I HATE David Haye you can't deny the man's acomplishment's.

He's actually a p4p level fighter right now I mean whupping Mormeck, Maccerinelli and Barrett has got to be better than Chad Dawson's resume and Dawson is knocking on the door for a p4p spot.

Haye proved tonight he IS an awesome fighter, I just really wish he wasn't

MORMECK MACCERINELLI AND BARRET?!?!?!?!? WHAT?!?!

I'm never one to downplay ANY accomplishment but beat a top 10 untested cruiserweight and an old champ and a heavyweight who literally no one has had trouble with in title fights. That's ridiculous Monte Barret is like Gary Lockett in terms of meaning anything.

Mormeck was the universally recognised cruiserweight champ, Maccerinelli was ranked about Number 3 in the Ring magazine. Certainly they both equate well with a 40 year old Tarver and a 39 year old Johnson.

If Dawson is borderline p4p then so is Haye. Haye was the undisputed cruiserweight champ, that must count for something.

And I can't stand Haye personally, but you can't deny the man's acomplishments'