< David Haye vs. Monte Barrett > It's go time... Let's talk it out.

[El Kabong]

JT whenever a fighter hypes himself up as much as Haye he's going to be looked at more closely. Haye has been hyped by himself and his fans and from what I saw he wanted to have a show last night and for the most part he did but he also showed off some flaws.


My question is this: Do you want boxing fans to tell you what they see or do you want them to help you hype up your favorite fighter?


Haye KO'd Monte Barrett, it's what was expected of him....it doesn't mean in doing so that there are no flaws in Haye's game or that he fought a picture perfect match....he didn't and he'd be lying to everyone if he said otherwise.


There is a difference in being truthful and being a hater or a nut hugger....I am happy Haye won but I forsee trouble for him in the future and not with Wlad or Vitali but with maybe a guy like James Toney or someone else...we'll just have to see who he fights next and what route to a title he wants to take.

[JT Rock]

JT whenever a fighter hypes himself up as much as Haye he's going to be looked at more closely. Haye has been hyped by himself and his fans and from what I saw he wanted to have a show last night and for the most part he did but he also showed off some flaws.


My question is this: Do you want boxing fans to tell you what they see or do you want them to help you hype up your favorite fighter?


Haye KO'd Monte Barrett, it's what was expected of him....it doesn't mean in doing so that there are no flaws in Haye's game or that he fought a picture perfect match....he didn't and he'd be lying to everyone if he said otherwise.


There is a difference in being truthful and being a hater or a nut hugger....I am happy Haye won but I forsee trouble for him in the future and not with Wlad or Vitali but with maybe a guy like James Toney or someone else...we'll just have to see who he fights next and what route to a title he wants to take.

I agree 100% Haye should stay the hell away from Toney at this point, james would have a blast picking him apart and countering.. David is still growing and maturing as a fighter..Haye has tremendous upside and is great for the division..

No way does Haye have a snowballs chance in hell against Vitali if he is healthy

[El Kabong]

I think the best choices for Haye to fight, beat, and continue his growth as a fighter are as follows: Ray Austin, Kali Meehan, Dominick Guinn and Friday Ahunaya.

After a win or two at that level he then needs to step up to: Sultan Ibragimov, Jameel McCline, Luan Krasniqi, Sergei Lyakhovich, Eddie Chambers, John Ruiz and Cris Arreola.

And after a win or three there (having fought anywehere from 2-4 fights)he can then take on Wlad or Vitali or whoever else is there.

All those fighters have different attributes, skills, strengths, and weaknesses and therefore will tell us a lot about Haye.

[Kev]

JT whenever a fighter hypes himself up as much as Haye he's going to be looked at more closely. Haye has been hyped by himself and his fans and from what I saw he wanted to have a show last night and for the most part he did but he also showed off some flaws.


My question is this: Do you want boxing fans to tell you what they see or do you want them to help you hype up your favorite fighter?


Haye KO'd Monte Barrett, it's what was expected of him....it doesn't mean in doing so that there are no flaws in Haye's game or that he fought a picture perfect match....he didn't and he'd be lying to everyone if he said otherwise.


There is a difference in being truthful and being a hater or a nut hugger....I am happy Haye won but I forsee trouble for him in the future and not with Wlad or Vitali but with maybe a guy like James Toney or someone else...we'll just have to see who he fights next and what route to a title he wants to take.

I agree 100% Haye should stay the hell away from Toney at this point, james would have a blast picking him apart and countering.. David is still growing and maturing as a fighter..Haye has tremendous upside and is great for the division..

No way does Haye have a snowballs chance in hell against Vitali if he is healthy

I don't know I love James Toney he's a legend but he's looked bad in recent outings. We can't really tell anything from the fight with Rahman as it was over before it began but Toney looked God awful against that Bachelder bum and pretty terrible against Sam Peter in their rematch. He hardly impressive in the first Rahman fight either.

I don't think he'll get past Thompson to be honest, I think he's just about ready to retire now.

I can't see him beating David Haye at this stage in his career. I'd love to see him [ut an ass whupping on the Hayemaker but the Toney that stopped Holyfield, that beat up Jirov and owned John Ruiz is sadly long gone imo.

[JT Rock]

JT whenever a fighter hypes himself up as much as Haye he's going to be looked at more closely. Haye has been hyped by himself and his fans and from what I saw he wanted to have a show last night and for the most part he did but he also showed off some flaws.


My question is this: Do you want boxing fans to tell you what they see or do you want them to help you hype up your favorite fighter?


Haye KO'd Monte Barrett, it's what was expected of him....it doesn't mean in doing so that there are no flaws in Haye's game or that he fought a picture perfect match....he didn't and he'd be lying to everyone if he said otherwise.


There is a difference in being truthful and being a hater or a nut hugger....I am happy Haye won but I forsee trouble for him in the future and not with Wlad or Vitali but with maybe a guy like James Toney or someone else...we'll just have to see who he fights next and what route to a title he wants to take.

I agree 100% Haye should stay the hell away from Toney at this point, james would have a blast picking him apart and countering.. David is still growing and maturing as a fighter..Haye has tremendous upside and is great for the division..

No way does Haye have a snowballs chance in hell against Vitali if he is healthy

I don't know I love James Toney he's a legend but he's looked bad in recent outings. We can't really tell anything from the fight with Rahman as it was over before it began but Toney looked God awful against that Bachelder bum and pretty terrible against Sam Peter in their rematch. He hardly impressive in the first Rahman fight either.

I don't think he'll get past Thompson to be honest, I think he's just about ready to retire now.

I can't see him beating David Haye at this stage in his career. I'd love to see him [ut an ass whupping on the Hayemaker but the Toney that stopped Holyfield, that beat up Jirov and owned John Ruiz is sadly long gone imo.

Even at this stage I see him ducking and rolling an over anxious Hayes punches and Haye getting tired or losing steam on his punches.. Toney always looks like a sitting duck, rotund and stationary but he makes you miss and then you pay with counters...

[El Kabong]

...agreed, if you don't throw straight punches James Toney will abuse you with his defense

[SweetPea]

I don't know I love James Toney he's a legend but he's looked bad in recent outings. We can't really tell anything from the fight with Rahman as it was over before it began but Toney looked God awful against that Bachelder bum and pretty terrible against Sam Peter in their rematch. He hardly impressive in the first Rahman fight either.

I don't think he'll get past Thompson to be honest, I think he's just about ready to retire now.

I can't see him beating David Haye at this stage in his career. I'd love to see him [ut an ass whupping on the Hayemaker but the Toney that stopped Holyfield, that beat up Jirov and owned John Ruiz is sadly long gone imo.

Agreed. The Toney of 4-5 years ago could've beaten Haye. But Toney is an old, old fighter at this point.