Why Chad Dawson is the most dangerous opponent Calzaghe would have faced.

[Kel]

Joe always adapts and finds gaps, you wont catch him with the same shot repeatedly, he will take that away from you by tagging you when you try it again.

He has fantastic stamina and workrate even in his late 30's

He still has a good chin, his powers of recovery are very impressive.

Joe is mostly an inside fighter and he would get past a long jab because you won't hit him with it as often as you threw it, you would eat a flurry of five punches for trying it.

I really want this fight to happen. I want to see what people say next, who he should fight next, who else will give him trouble etc..

[Taeth]

Joe always adapts and finds gaps, you wont catch him with the same shot repeatedly, he will take that away from you by tagging you when you try it again.

He has fantastic stamina and workrate even in his late 30's

He still has a good chin, his powers of recovery are very impressive.

Joe is mostly an inside fighter and he would get past a long jab because you won't hit him with it as often as you threw it, you would eat a flurry of five punches for trying it.

I really want this fight to happen. I want to see what people say next, who he should fight next, who else will give him trouble etc..

Jones landed his right hand plenty, and when he didn't Calzaghe wasn't able to retaliate immediately. You are forgetting that Chad is faster than anything Calzaghe has ever faced. Calzaghe won't be countering him effectively, Roy wasn't being countered by Calzaghe very effectively, and Joe hit him about a thousand times on his gloves, but Roy wouldn't punch back, we saw the same thing against Glen Johnson, but where Roy didn't punch back or use footwork to create space against Johnson, Dawson did both, and fought a very close fight with a guy who KO'ed Roy, and beat him worse than Calzaghe did. Also Roy doesn't ahve snap left on his punches anymore so Calzaghe didn't respect them. Kessler didn't have the speed or unorthodoxy to catch Calzaghe with something he wouldn't see coming. Dawson has all these qualities to make this a great fight. If he was a little rougher he would be the carbon copy of a guy who is the exact wrong match up for Joe. Bigger, faster, punches straighter. I never said these things about Roy except faster and punches straight, I knew his punch was gone before he ever faced Calzaghe. I never expected Hopkins to knock him down, and hurt Calzaghe several times down the stretch.


All in all if you think Joe will have an easy time getting on the inside of a guy like Chad your wrong, Joe hasn't delt with a very skilled southpaw in his entire career, and he wouldn't be used to that jab.

[ICB]

Joe always adapts and finds gaps, you wont catch him with the same shot repeatedly, he will take that away from you by tagging you when you try it again.

He has fantastic stamina and workrate even in his late 30's

He still has a good chin, his powers of recovery are very impressive.

Joe is mostly an inside fighter and he would get past a long jab because you won't hit him with it as often as you threw it, you would eat a flurry of five punches for trying it.

I really want this fight to happen. I want to see what people say next, who he should fight next, who else will give him trouble etc..

Robin Reid caught Joe Calzaghe constantly with straight right hands, and Joe Calzaghe couldn't adjust. Not that it matters against Chad Dawson because he is a Southpaw but still.

[Fenster]

Joe always adapts and finds gaps, you wont catch him with the same shot repeatedly, he will take that away from you by tagging you when you try it again.

He has fantastic stamina and workrate even in his late 30's

He still has a good chin, his powers of recovery are very impressive.

Joe is mostly an inside fighter and he would get past a long jab because you won't hit him with it as often as you threw it, you would eat a flurry of five punches for trying it.

I really want this fight to happen. I want to see what people say next, who he should fight next, who else will give him trouble etc..

Robin Reid caught Joe Calzaghe constantly with straight right hands, and Joe Calzaghe couldn't adjust. Not that it matters against Chad Dawson because he is a Southpaw but still.

He wasn't as experienced/smart back then.. and didn't show the same confidence.. and had the broken hand, which couldn't have helped his concentration

[ICB]

Joe always adapts and finds gaps, you wont catch him with the same shot repeatedly, he will take that away from you by tagging you when you try it again.

He has fantastic stamina and workrate even in his late 30's

He still has a good chin, his powers of recovery are very impressive.

Joe is mostly an inside fighter and he would get past a long jab because you won't hit him with it as often as you threw it, you would eat a flurry of five punches for trying it.

I really want this fight to happen. I want to see what people say next, who he should fight next, who else will give him trouble etc..

Robin Reid caught Joe Calzaghe constantly with straight right hands, and Joe Calzaghe couldn't adjust. Not that it matters against Chad Dawson because he is a Southpaw but still.

He wasn't as experienced/smart back then.. and didn't show the same confidence.. and had the broken hand, which couldn't have helped his concentration

What about against Richie Woodhall/Bernard Hopkins ? im not dissing Joe Calzaghe here. But i disagree with Kel's comment that Joe Calzaghe can't be caught with the same shot over and over when he clearly can.

But like i said this is all a moot point anyway because Chad Dawson is a Southpaw, but i would like to see Chad Dawson work Joe Calzaghe's body. Chad Dawson is a good body puncher especially once he gets going with his combinations.

And it would be interesting to see how Joe Calzaghe would cope, because he's never really been tested to the body before.

[Fenster]

Robin Reid caught Joe Calzaghe constantly with straight right hands, and Joe Calzaghe couldn't adjust. Not that it matters against Chad Dawson because he is a Southpaw but still.

He wasn't as experienced/smart back then.. and didn't show the same confidence.. and had the broken hand, which couldn't have helped his concentration

What about against Richie Woodhall/Bernard Hopkins ? im not dissing Joe Calzaghe here. But i disagree with Kel's comment that Joe Calzaghe can't be caught with the same shot over and over when he clearly can.

But like i said this is all a moot point anyway because Chad Dawson is a Southpaw, but i would like to see Chad Dawson work Joe Calzaghe's body. Chad Dawson is a good body puncher especially once he gets going with his combinations.

And it would be interesting to see how Joe Calzaghe would cope, because he's never really been tested to the body before.

What about them?

Joe just duffed his mate Richie up - he could deal with the punches no problem. Hopkins threw and landed hardly anything.

For Dawson to have any effect on Calzaghe's body he'll have to be a consistent, hurtful, sustained body puncher. No-one could really get away with that against Calzaghe without getting hit 10-fold back. That's the problem.

[ICB]

He wasn't as experienced/smart back then.. and didn't show the same confidence.. and had the broken hand, which couldn't have helped his concentration

What about against Richie Woodhall/Bernard Hopkins ? im not dissing Joe Calzaghe here. But i disagree with Kel's comment that Joe Calzaghe can't be caught with the same shot over and over when he clearly can.

But like i said this is all a moot point anyway because Chad Dawson is a Southpaw, but i would like to see Chad Dawson work Joe Calzaghe's body. Chad Dawson is a good body puncher especially once he gets going with his combinations.

And it would be interesting to see how Joe Calzaghe would cope, because he's never really been tested to the body before.

What about them?

Joe just duffed his mate Richie up - he could deal with the punches no problem. Hopkins threw and landed hardly anything.

For Dawson to have any effect on Calzaghe's body he'll have to be a consistent, hurtful, sustained body puncher. No-one could really get away with that against Calzaghe without getting hit 10-fold back. That's the problem.

Richie Woodhall landed constantly with right hands so did Bernard Hopkins, that was my point.

[Taeth]

He wasn't as experienced/smart back then.. and didn't show the same confidence.. and had the broken hand, which couldn't have helped his concentration

What about against Richie Woodhall/Bernard Hopkins ? im not dissing Joe Calzaghe here. But i disagree with Kel's comment that Joe Calzaghe can't be caught with the same shot over and over when he clearly can.

But like i said this is all a moot point anyway because Chad Dawson is a Southpaw, but i would like to see Chad Dawson work Joe Calzaghe's body. Chad Dawson is a good body puncher especially once he gets going with his combinations.

And it would be interesting to see how Joe Calzaghe would cope, because he's never really been tested to the body before.

What about them?

Joe just duffed his mate Richie up - he could deal with the punches no problem. Hopkins threw and landed hardly anything.

For Dawson to have any effect on Calzaghe's body he'll have to be a consistent, hurtful, sustained body puncher. No-one could really get away with that against Calzaghe without getting hit 10-fold back. That's the problem.

I didn't see Calzaghe countering hurtful coutners on Jones who didn''t really throw anything. Dawson will land just as many punches on Calzaghe as would be landed on him. A much tougher chin'ed Glen Johnson who also hits harder was going to war with Chad Dawson. I honeslty have never seen Joe in that sort of fight not even against Kessler. Chad Dawson abandoned defense to put on a show, it was a great fight. You guys are questioning his will to win, when Glen Johnson in that form would have given CAlzaghe one hell of a fight. The reason I don't think Johnson is quite as dangerous for Calzaghe is that he isn't as fast as Dawson, he's easier to hit, and Calzaghe would outbox him IMO. Dawson could have as well, but he chose not to. I think Dawson would be able to hit Calzaghe at will just like Hopkins was able to, before he got tired, and once again after he got his rest. Just like Roy was able to, whenever he actually threw punches.

Once again Chad Dawson is on the top level IMO, and he's so big, and so fast, and so good. That is why is a great matchup

[Preme]

If Calzaghe still fights on then he has to fight Dawson IMO, that is the fight that makes more sense than anyother fight now for me.

I'm just not 100% sold on Dawson yet, i'm not saying he isn't one of the best about, he just has to do a bit more for me to make my mind up on weather he is the real deal or just another hyped up Us fighter. Granted he looked great against Tarver but every fcking time he threw a punch Tarver stood there rooted to the spot not moving until he was finished throwing however many punches he wanted.

Johnson on the otherhand, a freaking journeyman came very very close to beating him, so i'm not sure if a fighter who comes at him and has good movment and great skill would cause him fits, or weather he figured johnson to be a journeyman and wasnt realy ready.

[Rantcatrat]

I'll concede BCD would be the most difficult fight for Calzaghe right now. I still would favor Calzaghe.

If Calzaghe had three fights in him, from a financial, risk, and legacy standpoint, I'd take these fights in a location to be determined (not in particular order):

1. Jermain Taylor v. Carl Froch winner in March. Fight in Vegas if Taylor wins and in London if Froch wins.
2. Assuming he stays unbeaten until next summer, BCD in Wales. Make a cool 10-15 million.
3. Abraham v. Pavlik winner. In Germany if Abraham wins and in Vegas in Pavlik wins.

Because BCD is the most difficult fight for Calzaghe, and of the above fighters probably has the least name recognition, from a risk/reward standpoint, I'm not sure it makes the most sense to test those waters as of yet, when Calzaghe could milk the cow a little longer.

Jermain has a big name and assuming he beats Froch, he would be somewhat redeemed from the Pavlik loss. A lot of money and I think Calzaghe easily wins. If Froch beats Jermain, a match with Calzaghe would be a big deal in the UK.

Abraham v. Pavlik. Both have big names in their respective countries and both would be relatively easy wins for Calzaghe. Additionally, beating a prime unified middleweight champion of the world is a big accomplishment.

He could very well walk away from those three fights 50 million dollars richer. Mad loot son.

[ICB]

If Calzaghe still fights on then he has to fight Dawson IMO, that is the fight that makes more sense than anyother fight now for me.

I'm just not 100% sold on Dawson yet, i'm not saying he isn't one of the best about, he just has to do a bit more for me to make my mind up on weather he is the real deal or just another hyped up Us fighter. Granted he looked great against Tarver but every fcking time he threw a punch Tarver stood there rooted to the spot not moving until he was finished throwing however many punches he wanted.

Johnson on the otherhand, a freaking journeyman came very very close to beating him, so i'm not sure if a fighter who comes at him and has good movment and great skill would cause him fits, or weather he figured johnson to be a journeyman and wasnt realy ready.

Why do you keep calling Glen Johnson a journeyman ? when i and other members have gave you long explanations why he isn't one. Watch more of his fights or learn/read up about him, because your really showing how limited your boxing knowledge is keep calling him a journeyman. Im sick of having to keep explaining this all the time it makes me want to neg rep you. Because your not willing to learn.

[Preme]

If Calzaghe still fights on then he has to fight Dawson IMO, that is the fight that makes more sense than anyother fight now for me.

I'm just not 100% sold on Dawson yet, i'm not saying he isn't one of the best about, he just has to do a bit more for me to make my mind up on weather he is the real deal or just another hyped up Us fighter. Granted he looked great against Tarver but every fcking time he threw a punch Tarver stood there rooted to the spot not moving until he was finished throwing however many punches he wanted.

Johnson on the otherhand, a freaking journeyman came very very close to beating him, so i'm not sure if a fighter who comes at him and has good movment and great skill would cause him fits, or weather he figured johnson to be a journeyman and wasnt realy ready.

Why do you keep calling Glen Johnson a journeyman ? when i and other members have gave you long explanations why he isn't one. Watch more of his fights or learn/read up about him, because your really showing how limited your boxing knowledge is keep calling him a journeyman. Im sick of having to keep explaining this all the time it makes me want to neg rep you. Because your not willing to learn.

why do i call him one? because he is, maybe he and you are both to stupid to see it, but he is lol

don't bother explaining anyhting to me, i don't value your opinion boxrec boy, really i don't.


haha neg rep me? i don't know if it's because i'm baked out of my skull or the fact you think i could give a fuck that someone neg repped me lol??

haha thanks for that, i was gunna watch step brothers again and laugh at this with this head on, i think i'll just read more of your posts, they crack me up more.

[Kel]

Joe always adapts and finds gaps, you wont catch him with the same shot repeatedly, he will take that away from you by tagging you when you try it again.

He has fantastic stamina and workrate even in his late 30's

He still has a good chin, his powers of recovery are very impressive.

Joe is mostly an inside fighter and he would get past a long jab because you won't hit him with it as often as you threw it, you would eat a flurry of five punches for trying it.

I really want this fight to happen. I want to see what people say next, who he should fight next, who else will give him trouble etc..

Robin Reid caught Joe Calzaghe constantly with straight right hands, and Joe Calzaghe couldn't adjust. Not that it matters against Chad Dawson because he is a Southpaw but still.

That was TEN years ago, his style has changed quite a bit since then don't you think?

[ICB]

Joe always adapts and finds gaps, you wont catch him with the same shot repeatedly, he will take that away from you by tagging you when you try it again.

He has fantastic stamina and workrate even in his late 30's

He still has a good chin, his powers of recovery are very impressive.

Joe is mostly an inside fighter and he would get past a long jab because you won't hit him with it as often as you threw it, you would eat a flurry of five punches for trying it.

I really want this fight to happen. I want to see what people say next, who he should fight next, who else will give him trouble etc..

Robin Reid caught Joe Calzaghe constantly with straight right hands, and Joe Calzaghe couldn't adjust. Not that it matters against Chad Dawson because he is a Southpaw but still.

That was TEN years ago, his style has changed quite a bit since then don't you think?

His style has changed in what way ?