I'd say that the Margarito win trumps any of Chad's wins, but Chad has a few big wins and Williams really only has that one, plus the loss to Quintana. Then I guess it depends on who you think is the better fighter, if you're just comparing the two.
Let me ask you this.
PW beat Antonio Margarito. He never entered P4P top 10 status.
Antonio Margarito all of a sudden beats Miguel Cotto.
Now PW enters the top 10 ?
It doesn't make sense because PW is entering on behalf of Margarito's win over Cotto.
Not because Paul Williams has followed up on that win, hell no. Being took to school by Carlos Quintana is hardly following up.
It's just stupid IMO.
Doesn't matter about the rematch. Quintana is only a contender anyway.
My point is beating Antonio Margarito last year and not following it up shouldn't make you P4P worthy IMO (And everyone else almost agrees on this thread).
Antonio Margarito has never been P4P worthy only untill after he beat Cotto recently.
Another example.
Vic Darchinyan hasn't been put in the P4P top ten by many.
Yet he knocked out and dominated a P4P prime top 5 Christian Mijares and has good wins before that fight. Who did PW beat before Margarito? Vic is also a 2 weight world champion.
So why should Paul be put above him when Margarito was lower than Mijares in the P4P rankings ?
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Antonio Margarito was probably just about top 20 P4P when Paul Williams beat him if that. What Antonio Margarito has done recently should not give Paul Williams a free pass in the top 10 P4P.
Like Leftylee just said Vic Darchinyan just dominated a top 6 P4P fighter, so why isn't he in the top 10 ? or why isn't Chad Dawson in the top 10 ? he has solid wins over Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson, Eric Harding, Tomasz Adamek.
I'd like to know what Paul Williams has done to deserve to be rated above. Chad Dawson or Vic Darchinyan.
Last edited by ICB; 11-19-2008 at 05:57 PM.
i think hes good
future p4p
but there are more ppl with better resume then he has and deserve it more and they aint even close the p4p list, he might even stay up there if he wins aganist phillps which wuold make him a two division champ.lol
mind over speed and power
First, I don't think you keep a person in the top ten p4p because of how well they looked losing a fight unless you last 12 rounds and fight competitively and end up losing a very close decision to a top ten p4p fighter. I don't really know what is redeemable about getting knocked the f*ck out, losing by submission, or losing every single round.
Second, Cotto didn't look good losing. He submitted to Margarito; Margarito looked as if he hadn't even been in a fight afterward ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3UMnJqHba8 ). That's an argument for another day, however.
Third, PBF and Bhop were each in the top ten p4p when they fought; Margarito wasn't in the top ten when he fought Cotto. PBF was ranked #1 p4p when he beat Ricky. Bhop was ranked #5 when he beat Pavlik. Ricky and Pavlik lost to top ten p4p fighters and Cotto lost to an unranked fighter.
The point is there are fighters more deserving of top ten p4p status than Cotto or Pwill. As I mentioned earlier, two that come to mind are Vic and BCD.
Last edited by Rantcatrat; 11-19-2008 at 06:09 PM.
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