< Paul Williams TOP 10 P4P? You've gotta be fooken kidding...

[ClubberLang]

Margarito wasn't top ten P4P when he fought Williams.

NO WAY Williams is P4P top ten now.

Maybe in terms of "Ducked" but not in achievement thus far in his career.

Why does it matter if Margarito was regarded as top 10 at the time? He was an established fighter who proved his worth by knocking out Cotto. That elevates Williams victory. It isn't like Margarito was some green prospect when they fought.

He never knocked out Cotto before fighting Williams

So? He was the same quality of fighter at the time, unless you think at 30 years of age he all of sudden had a big improvement over the year that past between the Williams and Cotto fights.

[leftylee]

Why does it matter if Margarito was regarded as top 10 at the time? He was an established fighter who proved his worth by knocking out Cotto. That elevates Williams victory. It isn't like Margarito was some green prospect when they fought.

He never knocked out Cotto before fighting Williams

So? He was the same quality of fighter at the time, unless you think at 30 years of age he all of sudden had a big improvement over the year that past between the Williams and Cotto fights.

Let me ask you this.

PW beat Antonio Margarito. He never entered P4P top 10 status.

Antonio Margarito all of a sudden beats Miguel Cotto.

Now PW enters the top 10 ?

It doesn't make sense because PW is entering on behalf of Margarito's win over Cotto.

Not because Paul Williams has followed up on that win, hell no. Being took to school by Carlos Quintana is hardly following up.

It's just stupid IMO.

[ClubberLang]

He never knocked out Cotto before fighting Williams

So? He was the same quality of fighter at the time, unless you think at 30 years of age he all of sudden had a big improvement over the year that past between the Williams and Cotto fights.

Let me ask you this.

PW beat Antonio Margarito. He never entered P4P top 10 status.

Antonio Margarito all of a sudden beats Miguel Cotto.

Now PW enters the top 10 ?

It doesn't make sense because PW is entering on behalf of Margarito's win over Cotto.

Not because Paul Williams has followed up on that win, hell no. Being took to school by Carlos Quintana is hardly following up.

It's just stupid IMO.

How is it stupid to give Williams credit for beating a prime Margarito? You have a point about the Quintana loss, but he avenged that loss by demolishing Carlos in the rematch, so I'd say it's fair to put him in the top 10.

[leftylee]

So? He was the same quality of fighter at the time, unless you think at 30 years of age he all of sudden had a big improvement over the year that past between the Williams and Cotto fights.

Let me ask you this.

PW beat Antonio Margarito. He never entered P4P top 10 status.

Antonio Margarito all of a sudden beats Miguel Cotto.

Now PW enters the top 10 ?

It doesn't make sense because PW is entering on behalf of Margarito's win over Cotto.

Not because Paul Williams has followed up on that win, hell no. Being took to school by Carlos Quintana is hardly following up.

It's just stupid IMO.

How is it stupid to give Williams credit for beating a prime Margarito? You have a point about the Quintana loss, but he avenged that loss by demolishing Carlos in the rematch, so I'd say it's fair to put him in the top 10.

Doesn't matter about the rematch. Quintana is only a contender anyway.

My point is beating Antonio Margarito last year and not following it up shouldn't make you P4P worthy IMO (And everyone else almost agrees on this thread).

Antonio Margarito has never been P4P worthy only untill after he beat Cotto recently.

[leftylee]

Another example.

Vic Darchinyan hasn't been put in the P4P top ten by many.

Yet he knocked out and dominated a P4P prime top 5 Christian Mijares and has good wins before that fight. Who did PW beat before Margarito? Vic is also a 2 weight world champion.

So why should Paul be put above him when Margarito was lower than Mijares in the P4P rankings ?

[Rantcatrat]

So? He was the same quality of fighter at the time, unless you think at 30 years of age he all of sudden had a big improvement over the year that past between the Williams and Cotto fights.

Let me ask you this.

PW beat Antonio Margarito. He never entered P4P top 10 status.

Antonio Margarito all of a sudden beats Miguel Cotto.

Now PW enters the top 10 ?

It doesn't make sense because PW is entering on behalf of Margarito's win over Cotto.

Not because Paul Williams has followed up on that win, hell no. Being took to school by Carlos Quintana is hardly following up.

It's just stupid IMO.

How is it stupid to give Williams credit for beating a prime Margarito? You have a point about the Quintana loss, but he avenged that loss by demolishing Carlos in the rematch, so I'd say it's fair to put him in the top 10.

Fair maybe, but there are other more deserving candidates.

[ICB]

So? He was the same quality of fighter at the time, unless you think at 30 years of age he all of sudden had a big improvement over the year that past between the Williams and Cotto fights.

Let me ask you this.

PW beat Antonio Margarito. He never entered P4P top 10 status.

Antonio Margarito all of a sudden beats Miguel Cotto.

Now PW enters the top 10 ?

It doesn't make sense because PW is entering on behalf of Margarito's win over Cotto.

Not because Paul Williams has followed up on that win, hell no. Being took to school by Carlos Quintana is hardly following up.

It's just stupid IMO.

How is it stupid to give Williams credit for beating a prime Margarito? You have a point about the Quintana loss, but he avenged that loss by demolishing Carlos in the rematch, so I'd say it's fair to put him in the top 10.

Antonio Margarito was probably just about top 20 P4P when Paul Williams beat him if that. What Antonio Margarito has done recently should not give Paul Williams a free pass in the top 10 P4P.

Like Leftylee just said Vic Darchinyan just dominated a top 6 P4P fighter, so why isn't he in the top 10 ? or why isn't Chad Dawson in the top 10 ? he has solid wins over Antonio Tarver, Glen Johnson, Eric Harding, Tomasz Adamek.

I'd like to know what Paul Williams has done to deserve to be rated above. Chad Dawson or Vic Darchinyan.