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    Default Re: Someone explain this to me (Floyd/Hatton weight issue)

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    Pretty easy to clear up, PBF was not a true welter. He entered the ring weight significantly less than a typical welter would. He also began his career at a lower weigh than Hatton.

    If Hatton was fighting someone other than PBF, that point would be valid.
    Bud ya missing my point ... Hatton is sharper & more explosive at lite welter and would fight a better fight than last timme ... nothing to do with Floyd & his weight ... nothing at all ... its what Hatton has to go thru to make lite welter that changes him as a fighter ...

    Floyd is the greatest fighter of his generation for me but Ricky Hatton did not fight his best fight againsrt Floyd at welter thats all Im saying....he woulda fought his fight better at lw ... no more no less

    So you dont agree that the extra training & discipline make a difference thats fine & your opinion & as Ive said I respect that with anyone..

    If he is so much better at LW, and he must be aware of this, then why not come in at that weight. PBF was not never going to be significantly bigger than Hatton, regardless of whether Hatton came in at 140 or 145 (which is what I think he weighed in at), and the weight wouldn't have made any more than a marginal difference, one that would easily be offset by a "sharper, more explosive" Hatton. Of course extra training and discipline make a difference, but I'm sure Hatton wasn't spending his prefight training time drinking guiness and eating burgers. I highly doubt he let his training slip during the run up to fight the best fighter in the world, that, IMO, is a ridiculous assertion. Hatton and his team believed weighing in at 140 would've given him a better chance against PBF, then they would've done it as, because of the fact that Floyd is not even a natural 140lber, the weight discrepency would've been negligable.

    I'm not trying to be mean, but your argument makes little sense to me. PBF owns Hatton at whatever weight they fight at. Like others have mentioned, PBF would also be sharper and faster at 140, negative whatever supposed advantage you think Hatton would have.
    There's more money at the higher weights
    Plain and simple

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    Default Re: Someone explain this to me (Floyd/Hatton weight issue)

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    Bud ya missing my point ... Hatton is sharper & more explosive at lite welter and would fight a better fight than last timme ... nothing to do with Floyd & his weight ... nothing at all ... its what Hatton has to go thru to make lite welter that changes him as a fighter ...

    Floyd is the greatest fighter of his generation for me but Ricky Hatton did not fight his best fight againsrt Floyd at welter thats all Im saying....he woulda fought his fight better at lw ... no more no less

    So you dont agree that the extra training & discipline make a difference thats fine & your opinion & as Ive said I respect that with anyone..

    If he is so much better at LW, and he must be aware of this, then why not come in at that weight. PBF was not never going to be significantly bigger than Hatton, regardless of whether Hatton came in at 140 or 145 (which is what I think he weighed in at), and the weight wouldn't have made any more than a marginal difference, one that would easily be offset by a "sharper, more explosive" Hatton. Of course extra training and discipline make a difference, but I'm sure Hatton wasn't spending his prefight training time drinking guiness and eating burgers. I highly doubt he let his training slip during the run up to fight the best fighter in the world, that, IMO, is a ridiculous assertion. Hatton and his team believed weighing in at 140 would've given him a better chance against PBF, then they would've done it as, because of the fact that Floyd is not even a natural 140lber, the weight discrepency would've been negligable.

    I'm not trying to be mean, but your argument makes little sense to me. PBF owns Hatton at whatever weight they fight at. Like others have mentioned, PBF would also be sharper and faster at 140, negative whatever supposed advantage you think Hatton would have.
    There's more money at the higher weights
    Plain and simple
    uhhh, what?

    I'm well aware of the reasons behind PBF's moving up in weight, but that has nothing to do with what I just wrote.

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    Default Re: Someone explain this to me (Floyd/Hatton weight issue)

    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
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    If he is so much better at LW, and he must be aware of this, then why not come in at that weight. PBF was not never going to be significantly bigger than Hatton, regardless of whether Hatton came in at 140 or 145 (which is what I think he weighed in at), and the weight wouldn't have made any more than a marginal difference, one that would easily be offset by a "sharper, more explosive" Hatton. Of course extra training and discipline make a difference, but I'm sure Hatton wasn't spending his prefight training time drinking guiness and eating burgers. I highly doubt he let his training slip during the run up to fight the best fighter in the world, that, IMO, is a ridiculous assertion. Hatton and his team believed weighing in at 140 would've given him a better chance against PBF, then they would've done it as, because of the fact that Floyd is not even a natural 140lber, the weight discrepency would've been negligable.

    I'm not trying to be mean, but your argument makes little sense to me. PBF owns Hatton at whatever weight they fight at. Like others have mentioned, PBF would also be sharper and faster at 140, negative whatever supposed advantage you think Hatton would have.
    There's more money at the higher weights
    Plain and simple
    uhhh, what?

    I'm well aware of the reasons behind PBF's moving up in weight, but that has nothing to do with what I just wrote.
    You asked why they moved up in weight,even if it wasnt in Hattons best interests
    I answered, fights at higher weights do better money,if it had happened at a lower weight,it wouldnt have done as much book

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    Default Re: Someone explain this to me (Floyd/Hatton weight issue)

    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CFH View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    There's more money at the higher weights
    Plain and simple
    uhhh, what?

    I'm well aware of the reasons behind PBF's moving up in weight, but that has nothing to do with what I just wrote.
    You asked why they moved up in weight,even if it wasnt in Hattons best interests
    I answered, fights at higher weights do better money,if it had happened at a lower weight,it wouldnt have done as much book
    You're misunderstanding what I said, I never asked why the fight took place at 147.

    Regardless, the PBF-Hatton fight would have made just as much money and aroused just as much interest at 140 anyways, but that's a digresson.

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