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    Default Re: Who was better....

    Quote Originally Posted by CutMeMick View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
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    From those 3.

    SRL
    Hagler
    Hearns
    *I rate Duran higher then them in a P4P status.
    That's a thread in and of itself. I don't get how so many people can rate Duran so damn high on the all time p4p lists. On the basis of what? his time at lightweight? HIs badass image? Would you rate Duran higher than Arguello? Higher than Chavez? There are a number of fighters who have more victories against big names than Duran. Fighters who have had far more success moving up through the divisions. Who's the biggest name Duran has a +record against? Iknow Duran is good, but he aint that good. IMHO
    Luckly I've delt with someone like you before who questioned Durans P4P status. (Not that theres anything wrong with questioning)
    But people don't look at the big picture...

    A boxers greatness is not measured by 1 or 2 or 3 things. It's a mixture of a handful of things. Durans great because he fought through adversity because he beat all time greats. Because he fought the best of his era, the next era and the next era. Because when he has listed as the underdog he came out on top, because when they said he was done he won. Because his skills were amazing because he could adapt to any style in the ring.

    Here's a post that should put things into light a bit more for you as far as Durans career.

    http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post436770
    Actually I do think I look at the big picture.

    I know he lost to all of the big 4 or 5 you rank him above, add Benitez to that list. I know he never had a succesful title defence above lightweight. I know when it comes to victories over the best there are several who have more.

    Anyway I don't really have the patience to spend what will obviously be a lot of time going through these points with a fine tooth comb. Except to say that a lot of your points are subjective. I've followed the sport closely for many years, although I probably haven't watched as many fights as you have. Buying or downloading old fights is not the way I like to spend my time and/or money.

    A lot of it depends on what your criteria are for greatness. Lots of room for opinion there. Sure Duran is an all time great, but to be consistently ranked top 5 by so many, I don't agree. Not so much that he doesn't deserve it, just that there are several others who are equally deserving IMO, who never get ranked as high as he does.

    p.s. your list is pretty good IMO, cheers keep up the good work
    Last edited by CGM; 11-27-2008 at 10:43 PM.

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