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    Its ignorant to not single out boxing and mma and all combat sports, NOT CONTACT sports which are also very bad, but not to the same degree.

    Sure there have been guys in football who have had to quit because of concussions, but they make you quit those sports for safety purposes far before they do in boxing, because the fact of the matter is most boxers have had concussions before, unless they have never been knocked out or hurt badly.

    Don't even try to compare football to boxing, how many times a game is there a solid hit that hits someone squarely in the head? How many times do you see in a game, a guy walking around without their balance? Not often at all. Football does have its hits, and I agree that the impact is greater in football, but its not focused to the head.

    Quarterbacks and receivers are the ones who are usually more susceptible to head shots, and thats because they are focusing on doing something else usually when they get hit, but one hit doesn't compare to the accumulation of punishment your brain takes over a tough fight. The brain is like porridge, and one hit sometimes does more damage, but usually it doesn't. Most tackles in football are not clean hits where you can level the guy, and usually, if you know how to tackle, you aim low so you can take out of the legs. Only on the rare occasion you get to the quarterback, or line of up a receiver going across the middle will you lay them out. Because if you try to tackle a solid running back up top, you are going to get knocked on your ass. Football isn't about killing the other person its a game, thus about winning, you don't need to "kill" the other team to win.

    In boxing that is the whole point, you are suppose to beat up your opponent, and I have no problem with the sport or the people that do it, its my favorite sport, I am just saying its also the most dangerous sport(in North America at least).

    This is why I think people are dumbasses for calling Mayweather a pussy for how he fights, Roy Jones Jr, I think if you can fight as safely as possible all the credit to you, because for the people who haven't been in the ring, try fighting like they do, Try fighting defensively against a good fighter, an we will see how easy it is not only to not get hit, but to be defensively minded and still be an effective counter puncher, amid the oncoming punches. And getting hit solidly rattles your brain, its not easy to maintain your calm, and senses, usually in a real fight your adrenaline takes away the pain, but you get amped up from being hit, and its hard to stay calm and do what you've trained to do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    Its ignorant to not single out boxing and mma and all combat sports, NOT CONTACT sports which are also very bad, but not to the same degree.

    Sure there have been guys in football who have had to quit because of concussions, but they make you quit those sports for safety purposes far before they do in boxing, because the fact of the matter is most boxers have had concussions before, unless they have never been knocked out or hurt badly.

    Don't even try to compare football to boxing, how many times a game is there a solid hit that hits someone squarely in the head? How many times do you see in a game, a guy walking around without their balance? Not often at all. Football does have its hits, and I agree that the impact is greater in football, but its not focused to the head.

    Quarterbacks and receivers are the ones who are usually more susceptible to head shots, and thats because they are focusing on doing something else usually when they get hit, but one hit doesn't compare to the accumulation of punishment your brain takes over a tough fight. The brain is like porridge, and one hit sometimes does more damage, but usually it doesn't. Most tackles in football are not clean hits where you can level the guy, and usually, if you know how to tackle, you aim low so you can take out of the legs. Only on the rare occasion you get to the quarterback, or line of up a receiver going across the middle will you lay them out. Because if you try to tackle a solid running back up top, you are going to get knocked on your ass. Football isn't about killing the other person its a game, thus about winning, you don't need to "kill" the other team to win.

    In boxing that is the whole point, you are suppose to beat up your opponent, and I have no problem with the sport or the people that do it, its my favorite sport, I am just saying its also the most dangerous sport(in North America at least).

    This is why I think people are dumbasses for calling Mayweather a pussy for how he fights, Roy Jones Jr, I think if you can fight as safely as possible all the credit to you, because for the people who haven't been in the ring, try fighting like they do, Try fighting defensively against a good fighter, an we will see how easy it is not only to not get hit, but to be defensively minded and still be an effective counter puncher, amid the oncoming punches. And getting hit solidly rattles your brain, its not easy to maintain your calm, and senses, usually in a real fight your adrenaline takes away the pain, but you get amped up from being hit, and its hard to stay calm and do what you've trained to do.
    Agreed on all...Point i was making originally was the one that those who feel boxing/MMa is purely to inflict perm damage and not for a competitive sake is not the whole idea of the sport..of course there is the highest % in these sports you are being hit in the head on a regular basis but there is also a love of the competition

    Also that the majority of the damage is done over time not from a few fights or KO's...

    As for PBF and RJJ style some may have found it boring but IMO it was impressive...especially Jones in his prime...PBF would have been more appreciated if he had a James Toney type punch....

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    Ive been about a bit, anybody who thinks Boxing isnt Dangerous wants there Brains looking at. Doesnt matter if you have a great defense Whittaker, Pep, Jones. Its what happens learning it, most damage happens in the gym preparing, preperation for Fights. Plus I believe The rule of Day before weigthins doesnt Help. Ive discussed this with Top Nuerologists, this is there belief. I love the Sport, theres so much good comes from it, this is my 50th year in it and loved every minute of it. But Im aware of the Dangers and protect to the best of my knowledge my Fighters. Teath makes some very good points, Unfortunatly they are true.
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    Ben Davidson. God I really liked him annd the rest of those guys. Otis was from the UNIVERSITY OF MARS!!!!!!!!!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by holmcall View Post
    Ben Davidson. God I really liked him annd the rest of those guys. Otis was from the UNIVERSITY OF MARS!!!!!!!!!!!
    Yeah he was lol...Tell you what...I would not have wanted to be the guy standing across from him on the line while he was all pumped up staring me down......6'4" 275 lbs with a bad attitude......

    Ben Davidson at 6'8" and 280lbs just a few guys away did not help lol...

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