PPV Buys

[albsur2006]

Yeah, earlier last week, I was estimating 750-800 K. But the buildup really caught on late last week and I started hearing about more parties. I knew A LOT of bars were showing the fight. The media coverage wasn't quite as big as the Mayweather fight but it was really close. I wouldn't be surprised to see at least 1.5 Million.

[Youngblood]

I hve no idea how this stuff works, but if between 1.6-2 mill in buys, and looking at those other fights bilbo listed, and factoring all things in...I'd say that would be damn good.

[Dizaster]

While we're waiting for the official figures to come in,,, do you think a Pac v Floyd showdown in 2009 would get more buys than Floyd v Oscar?? As far as a boxing fan I would surely think so.... I was actually a bit off put by the Oscar vs Floyd fight.. Oscar just isn't the motivated fighter that he was during his career when he was on the rise.. It was more of a money making thing to me.. And Floyd again wasn't fighting for a belt or anything and it just didn't seem like it had the heart and passion of fights like Cotto Margarito...
But to the general public, I actually think having Oscar in the Floyd fight will make the general public respond better than a Pac vs Floyd...
Although perhaps that's understimating the general public...

Pac vs Floyd would be absolutely HUGE for me and anyone who knows shit about boxing... Where Oscar's motivation was as much money as anything, I bet if it really came down to it, (and this is in fantasy land), Pac would fight Floyd for free just to be in the same ring and have the chance at adding a win over Floyd Mayweather to his legacy....

I mean, it would have to do more buys than Floyd DLH... They would hype the absolute shit out of it, and so they should! Matchups of genuine P4P number 1 plus P4P number 2 in boxing just comes along maybe every 5 or 10 years, and these are 2 great fighters... Not 10 years past the fact or anything.. Pac is arguably at his absolute Prime, and the weight only looks great and more explosive on him... And who could argue that Floyd has looked bad in ANY of his fights at all.. So by no means could anyone say Pac is getting an easy run of it fighting Floyd in 2009..

$2.5 million should be what the promoters aim for.. Any less and they shoudl be ashamed..

[kingfrnk]

speaking of PPV buys does anybody know how much Cotto vs Margarito did i bought that fight without thinking twice and i imagine any die hard boxing fan would.

[XaduBoxer]

This is unofficial from another forum:

"Bob Arum is walking around the office saying the ppv buys are very close to 2 million PPV buys!!! They are still tracking PPV's so nothing is official yet. He said they were expecting 1.5 million so they are pretty excited its around 2million! Numbers should be out by the end of the week..."
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[Diane]

HBO just released the number, and it was 1.25 million.

So Kel, you were pretty close there.

[pacfan]

HBO just released the number, and it was 1.25 million.

So Kel, you were pretty close there.

So that makes it the third biggest on the list, huh? beating even the Mosley and Hopkins fights. Not a bad for a fight that was supposed to be a big joke.

[C-Lo]

I really think that a Pacquiao-Mayweather fight would do better numbers than 1.25 Million. Don't forget that Mayweather did 850,000 buys fighting Ricky Hatton who was still somewhat of an unknown fighter from an American mainstream standpoint. Let's not forget that only PPV fights involving Tyson, Holyfield, and ODLH have done better numbers than 850,000. Mayweather should be considered a serious draw at this point. Americans hate and love loudmouth yet talented athletes at the same time. The bigger the threat to Mayweather's undefeated record the more fans will tune in. Pacquiao just DEMOLISHED ODLH in front of 1.25 Million pay per view buying viewers. Pacquiao must be considered a household name now. The fight, the talent involved, the styles, and the hype could propel it into megafight status. In my opinion, Pacquiao would waste a shot at BIG TIME money by fighting Hatton. He'd make great money with Hatton because the fight is a big fight overseas, but he'd make even better money and he'd gain A LOT more by fighting Floyd.

PBF isn't the draw. Hatton and Pacquiao is a much bigger fight. Mayweather isn't very well known nor liked. He wasn't known by the average person until ODH fight. Pac and Hatton have fans, PBF is well known but doesn't have a ton of fans and he doesn't have a crowd pleasing style. Except for hardcore boxing fans most people don't like his style of fighting. PBF couldn't sell out the arena for the Baldomir fight. If he was the draw it wouldn't matter who he fights. That's how it is for ODH, Hatton, Pac.... they fill the seats and sell ppv's no matter what.

PBF isn't that type of personality. He's recognized as supremely talented but not a ppv or seat selling powerhouse.

I think Duddy has a bigger fan base than PBF.

I agree! Mayweather isn't the draw. He was involved in the two biggest fights of 2007 but that was because of Oscar and Hatton. Hatton has tons of fans. Pacquiao has been making records with PPV buys for the lower weight classes with his fights with Morales and second fight with Marquez. If you ask me, Mayweather vs Hatton, Mayweather vs Pacquiao would both generate lots of buys but it's not the name Mayweather, it's because of Pacquiao and Hatton.

[Drago]

While we're waiting for the official figures to come in,,, do you think a Pac v Floyd showdown in 2009 would get more buys than Floyd v Oscar?? As far as a boxing fan I would surely think so.... I was actually a bit off put by the Oscar vs Floyd fight.. Oscar just isn't the motivated fighter that he was during his career when he was on the rise.. It was more of a money making thing to me.. And Floyd again wasn't fighting for a belt or anything and it just didn't seem like it had the heart and passion of fights like Cotto Margarito...
But to the general public, I actually think having Oscar in the Floyd fight will make the general public respond better than a Pac vs Floyd...
Although perhaps that's understimating the general public...

Pac vs Floyd would be absolutely HUGE for me and anyone who knows shit about boxing... Where Oscar's motivation was as much money as anything, I bet if it really came down to it, (and this is in fantasy land), Pac would fight Floyd for free just to be in the same ring and have the chance at adding a win over Floyd Mayweather to his legacy....

I mean, it would have to do more buys than Floyd DLH... They would hype the absolute shit out of it, and so they should! Matchups of genuine P4P number 1 plus P4P number 2 in boxing just comes along maybe every 5 or 10 years, and these are 2 great fighters... Not 10 years past the fact or anything.. Pac is arguably at his absolute Prime, and the weight only looks great and more explosive on him... And who could argue that Floyd has looked bad in ANY of his fights at all.. So by no means could anyone say Pac is getting an easy run of it fighting Floyd in 2009..

$2.5 million should be what the promoters aim for.. Any less and they shoudl be ashamed..

floyd oscar fight got so many more because of oscar, so i wouldnt expect pac mayweather to do that well prob abt 1 mill

[Drago]

whats the biggest PPV fight of all time?

[neverscared]

whats the biggest PPV fight of all time?

Oscar Mayweather in May 2.4M buys

[C-Lo]

I'm not saying Floyd isn't a draw. I'm just saying that Hatton and Pacquiao are more popular than him. Other than Floyd vs Hatton and Floyd vs De La Hoya, what kind of numbers did he put up?

Hatton, I have no clue what his numbers are, but I know the Pacquiao/Morales trilogy and the Pacquiao/Marquez II did big numbers..

[kingfrnk]

I'm not saying Floyd isn't a draw. I'm just saying that Hatton and Pacquiao are more popular than him. Other than Floyd vs Hatton and Floyd vs De La Hoya, what kind of numbers did he put up?

Hatton, I have no clue what his numbers are, but I know the Pacquiao/Morales trilogy and the Pacquiao/Marquez II did big numbers..

gatti and zab did good numbers i think. but other than that i dont know

[C-Lo]

I'm not saying Floyd isn't a draw. I'm just saying that Hatton and Pacquiao are more popular than him. Other than Floyd vs Hatton and Floyd vs De La Hoya, what kind of numbers did he put up?

Hatton, I have no clue what his numbers are, but I know the Pacquiao/Morales trilogy and the Pacquiao/Marquez II did big numbers..

gatti and zab did good numbers i think. but other than that i dont know

I got bored. I did some research. Prior to both men fighting Oscar De La Hoya, these are the PPV numbers they posted up:

Pacquiao vs Morales I: 350,000
Pacquiao vs Morales II: 360,000
Pacquiao vs Morales III: 350,000
Pacquiao vs Barrera II: 350,000 (Estimated)
Pacquiao vs Marquez: 400,000
Pacquiao vs Diaz: 250,000 (Estimated)
Manny also fought Larios and Solis via Top Rank independent PPV. I doubt those fights did big enough numbers cause I couldn't find the buys on the internet.

Mayweather vs Gatti: 365,000
Mayweather vs Judah: 350,000
Mayweather vs Baldomir: 325,000

There were also a couple articles that talked about PPV numbers reaching new heights for the lower weight classes since the Pacquiao vs Morales Trilogy. Historically, Welterweights and up got all the PPV popularity. Pac, Morales, Marquez, and Barrera helped with the emergence of the "lighter weight classes."

One thing led to another, here are some other significant lower weight class fight numbers:

Barrera vs Marquez: 225,000
Barrera vs Hamed: 310,000
Barrera vs Morales II: Between 300,000-325,000

CONCLUSION: Pacquiao and Mayweather are both draws.