Who's Been Watching Dexter this Season??

[Wayne]

I have a theory on Dexter, let me know what you all think.

Harry believes he saw certain characteristics in Dexter that would eventually lead to him becoming a serial killer. So he 'trained' him to keep them in check and gave him a code. What if Harry's code is what made Dexter a serial killer? We already know that Harry had a bit of a conflict of interest when it comes to Dexter (he was banging Dexter's mom), what if by not getting Dexter the help he needed to turn Dex away from some of his sociopathic tendencies he turned him into a killer. The kid was traumatized by seeing his mother get chainsawed, of course he was a little weird. And how about the fact Harry completely abandoned Dexter's brother? Harry isn't the nice guy Dexter and Deb remember him as and I think he wanted to craft a weapon to get at the people he can't put away.

[Wadeb_21]

I have a theory on Dexter, let me know what you all think.

Harry believes he saw certain characteristics in Dexter that would eventually lead to him becoming a serial killer. So he 'trained' him to keep them in check and gave him a code. What if Harry's code is what made Dexter a serial killer? We already know that Harry had a bit of a conflict of interest when it comes to Dexter (he was banging Dexter's mom), what if by not getting Dexter the help he needed to turn Dex away from some of his sociopathic tendencies he turned him into a killer. The kid was traumatized by seeing his mother get chainsawed, of course he was a little weird. And how about the fact Harry completely abandoned Dexter's brother? Harry isn't the nice guy Dexter and Deb remember him as and I think he wanted to craft a weapon to get at the people he can't put away.

Very interesting theory man. It makes sense because like you said Harry could get the bad guys he wasn't able to put behind bars. I like it. Maybe they end up going down that path you never know.

[Wayne]

I have a theory on Dexter, let me know what you all think.

Harry believes he saw certain characteristics in Dexter that would eventually lead to him becoming a serial killer. So he 'trained' him to keep them in check and gave him a code. What if Harry's code is what made Dexter a serial killer? We already know that Harry had a bit of a conflict of interest when it comes to Dexter (he was banging Dexter's mom), what if by not getting Dexter the help he needed to turn Dex away from some of his sociopathic tendencies he turned him into a killer. The kid was traumatized by seeing his mother get chainsawed, of course he was a little weird. And how about the fact Harry completely abandoned Dexter's brother? Harry isn't the nice guy Dexter and Deb remember him as and I think he wanted to craft a weapon to get at the people he can't put away.

Very interesting theory man. It makes sense because like you said Harry could get the bad guys he wasn't able to put behind bars. I like it. Maybe they end up going down that path you never know.

What also makes me think that is true sociopaths are only able to mimic emotions. They can't really care about anything but themselves. When Deb was kidnapped by his brother he really cared. And when Camilla was sick in the hospital he really cared. He may not have completely understood all the machinations behind wanting to die, but then again, he's never had cancer. You or I might have felt the same as him. If he were truly indifferent he wouldn't have put himself at risk to kill her.

[Wadeb_21]

So I watched the final episode of the season tonight. Man I think this season was better than the second one. I thought they wrapped it up nicely. I can't wait til next season already. What did the rest of you think of it?

[Wayne]

Maybe the Sopranos has got me spoiled, but I don't like these neatly wrapped up season finales. I'm just as disappointed in this one as I was the last one. It was just too... quick. Like they were rushing through it. This one was better than the last in that Dexter's fiancee has a secret that IS going to come back and bite her in the butt, but the whole skinner thing was much too well kempt in the end. All these times they come close and keep missing him and as soon as he catches Dexter, Dexter escapes and kills him? So the skinner knew how to tie everyone down until that day? Part of the problem is they make Dexter the center of everything. The side story between Debra and that dude was so weak. Now her looking into the CI her father was banging is interesting because it was Dexter's mother, but they left us with no clue where that might lead. I really like the show, but there is so much more they could be doing with it.

[Wadeb_21]

Maybe the Sopranos has got me spoiled, but I don't like these neatly wrapped up season finales. I'm just as disappointed in this one as I was the last one. It was just too... quick. Like they were rushing through it. This one was better than the last in that Dexter's fiancee has a secret that IS going to come back and bite her in the butt, but the whole skinner thing was much too well kempt in the end. All these times they come close and keep missing him and as soon as he catches Dexter, Dexter escapes and kills him? So the skinner knew how to tie everyone down until that day? Part of the problem is they make Dexter the center of everything. The side story between Debra and that dude was so weak. Now her looking into the CI her father was banging is interesting because it was Dexter's mother, but they left us with no clue where that might lead. I really like the show, but there is so much more they could be doing with it.

Man Sopranos was my favorite show ever. I still actually think they may make a movie in a couple years. Once David Chase starts missing the show.

My only complaint about this season is like you said they did rush to wrap this up in this season.

[Kev]

Yeah I agree completely about the rushed feel to the last episode. After spending an entire season with the skinner running as a main plot line to the big showdown last all of 8 minutes or so was really disappointing.

Still a great show, can't wait for the next season, I just wish we would have had an entire episode with Dexter being held by the skinner and the pyschological games that would have gone on between captor and prisoner.

When you consider how well they did the second series finale with Dokes being held captive for ages by Dexter this was poor.

It's worth noting that one of the main screenwriters left the show after the second series concluded and I have to say I have definitely notices a deterioration in the quality this time around.

[Wadeb_21]

Yeah I agree completely about the rushed feel to the last episode. After spending an entire season with the skinner running as a main plot line to the big showdown last all of 8 minutes or so was really disappointing.

Still a great show, can't wait for the next season, I just wish we would have had an entire episode with Dexter being held by the skinner and the pyschological games that would have gone on between captor and prisoner.

When you consider how well they did the second series finale with Dokes being held captive for ages by Dexter this was poor.

It's worth noting that one of the main screenwriters left the show after the second series concluded and I have to say I have definitely notices a deterioration in the quality this time around.

I didn't know one of the screenwriters left.

[Wayne]

Yeah I agree completely about the rushed feel to the last episode. After spending an entire season with the skinner running as a main plot line to the big showdown last all of 8 minutes or so was really disappointing.

Still a great show, can't wait for the next season, I just wish we would have had an entire episode with Dexter being held by the skinner and the pyschological games that would have gone on between captor and prisoner.

When you consider how well they did the second series finale with Dokes being held captive for ages by Dexter this was poor.

It's worth noting that one of the main screenwriters left the show after the second series concluded and I have to say I have definitely notices a deterioration in the quality this time around.

One thing I loved was Dexter's, "I don't give a fuck" attitude when he was tied to the skinner's table.

[Wadeb_21]

Yeah I agree completely about the rushed feel to the last episode. After spending an entire season with the skinner running as a main plot line to the big showdown last all of 8 minutes or so was really disappointing.

Still a great show, can't wait for the next season, I just wish we would have had an entire episode with Dexter being held by the skinner and the pyschological games that would have gone on between captor and prisoner.

When you consider how well they did the second series finale with Dokes being held captive for ages by Dexter this was poor.

It's worth noting that one of the main screenwriters left the show after the second series concluded and I have to say I have definitely notices a deterioration in the quality this time around.

One thing I loved was Dexter's, "I don't give a fuck" attitude when he was tied to the skinner's table.

Yeah I thought that was cool also. He said something along the lines of when a something is trapped they will cut off there own leg or arm to get away and I have to do the same.

[Kev]

Yeah I agree completely about the rushed feel to the last episode. After spending an entire season with the skinner running as a main plot line to the big showdown last all of 8 minutes or so was really disappointing.

Still a great show, can't wait for the next season, I just wish we would have had an entire episode with Dexter being held by the skinner and the pyschological games that would have gone on between captor and prisoner.

When you consider how well they did the second series finale with Dokes being held captive for ages by Dexter this was poor.

It's worth noting that one of the main screenwriters left the show after the second series concluded and I have to say I have definitely notices a deterioration in the quality this time around.

I didn't know one of the screenwriters left.

Yeah head writer and executive producer Daniel Cerone left after the second season. The first two seasons were awesome so I'm guessing his departure had something to do with the slight decline this year.

Having said that, it's always harded to keep a great series going than it is to have a great first season.

I just felt this season was a bit patchy, some elements dragged on and on whilst others were neatly resolved in a few minutes, a serious pacing problem imo.

There's also some characters that I'm not sure whose purpose is. Quinn for example, he came in to replace Dokes and it looked for most of the series like he was the head for some kind of major corruption story. After several episodes it ended up as a non story, then it seemed like he might be a possible love interest for Debra as she sought to get over Anton. But again no, so what exactly was his point on the show?

All the stories that were building around his character fizzled out into nothing which made me wonder why they wasted so much script time on him when they could have been developing other parts of the story, maybe concentrating on the existing characters more.

[Wadeb_21]

Yeah I agree completely about the rushed feel to the last episode. After spending an entire season with the skinner running as a main plot line to the big showdown last all of 8 minutes or so was really disappointing.

Still a great show, can't wait for the next season, I just wish we would have had an entire episode with Dexter being held by the skinner and the pyschological games that would have gone on between captor and prisoner.

When you consider how well they did the second series finale with Dokes being held captive for ages by Dexter this was poor.

It's worth noting that one of the main screenwriters left the show after the second series concluded and I have to say I have definitely notices a deterioration in the quality this time around.

I didn't know one of the screenwriters left.

Yeah head writer and executive producer Daniel Cerone left after the second season. The first two seasons were awesome so I'm guessing his departure had something to do with the slight decline this year.

Having said that, it's always harded to keep a great series going than it is to have a great first season.

I just felt this season was a bit patchy, some elements dragged on and on whilst others were neatly resolved in a few minutes, a serious pacing problem imo.

There's also some characters that I'm not sure whose purpose is. Quinn for example, he came in to replace Dokes and it looked for most of the series like he was the head for some kind of major corruption story. After several episodes it ended up as a non story, then it seemed like he might be a possible love interest for Debra as she sought to get over Anton. But again no, so what exactly was his point on the show?

All the stories that were building around his character fizzled out into nothing which made me wonder why they wasted so much script time on him when they could have been developing other parts of the story, maybe concentrating on the existing characters more.

The only thing I can think of why they did do some of the things you mentioned is maybe next season they are going to build off of what they did this season. But who really knows, only the writer.

[Wayne]

Yeah I agree completely about the rushed feel to the last episode. After spending an entire season with the skinner running as a main plot line to the big showdown last all of 8 minutes or so was really disappointing.

Still a great show, can't wait for the next season, I just wish we would have had an entire episode with Dexter being held by the skinner and the pyschological games that would have gone on between captor and prisoner.

When you consider how well they did the second series finale with Dokes being held captive for ages by Dexter this was poor.

It's worth noting that one of the main screenwriters left the show after the second series concluded and I have to say I have definitely notices a deterioration in the quality this time around.

I didn't know one of the screenwriters left.

Yeah head writer and executive producer Daniel Cerone left after the second season. The first two seasons were awesome so I'm guessing his departure had something to do with the slight decline this year.

Having said that, it's always harded to keep a great series going than it is to have a great first season.

I just felt this season was a bit patchy, some elements dragged on and on whilst others were neatly resolved in a few minutes, a serious pacing problem imo.

There's also some characters that I'm not sure whose purpose is. Quinn for example, he came in to replace Dokes and it looked for most of the series like he was the head for some kind of major corruption story. After several episodes it ended up as a non story, then it seemed like he might be a possible love interest for Debra as she sought to get over Anton. But again no, so what exactly was his point on the show?

All the stories that were building around his character fizzled out into nothing which made me wonder why they wasted so much script time on him when they could have been developing other parts of the story, maybe concentrating on the existing characters more.

I think we will see Quinn as dirty in the next season. What is meant by 'dirty' will be anyone's guess. Nothing has been proven with him either way as to whether or not the IA investigation was legit. I agree it made no sense to bring that up this season. That side story should have been explored to its fullest in a later season.

I'd like to see at least some of the focus not be on Dexter. Some interesting side stories are there for the exploring. I hate how the lieutenant just completely dropped Doakes. I thought this season she would set out to prove who the real killer was. She knew it wasn't Doakes and knew it was someone in their department and just gave up.

[Kev]

I didn't know one of the screenwriters left.

Yeah head writer and executive producer Daniel Cerone left after the second season. The first two seasons were awesome so I'm guessing his departure had something to do with the slight decline this year.

Having said that, it's always harded to keep a great series going than it is to have a great first season.

I just felt this season was a bit patchy, some elements dragged on and on whilst others were neatly resolved in a few minutes, a serious pacing problem imo.

There's also some characters that I'm not sure whose purpose is. Quinn for example, he came in to replace Dokes and it looked for most of the series like he was the head for some kind of major corruption story. After several episodes it ended up as a non story, then it seemed like he might be a possible love interest for Debra as she sought to get over Anton. But again no, so what exactly was his point on the show?

All the stories that were building around his character fizzled out into nothing which made me wonder why they wasted so much script time on him when they could have been developing other parts of the story, maybe concentrating on the existing characters more.

I think we will see Quinn as dirty in the next season. What is meant by 'dirty' will be anyone's guess. Nothing has been proven with him either way as to whether or not the IA investigation was legit. I agree it made no sense to bring that up this season. That side story should have been explored to its fullest in a later season.

I'd like to see at least some of the focus not be on Dexter. Some interesting side stories are there for the exploring. I hate how the lieutenant just completely dropped Doakes. I thought this season she would set out to prove who the real killer was. She knew it wasn't Doakes and knew it was someone in their department and just gave up.

Yeah she pisses me off immensely. I mean she knew Miguel for 20 years and were former lovers, then she goes out on one pub date with that lawyer woman and all of a sudden Miguel killed her 'friend' and she struggles to get over the loss of her?

Get real, if my ex lover, and someone I'd been friends with for 20 years and who was an important part of my life killed a bloke I'd been out to the pub with one time I'd be more gutted about the fact that my ex girlfriend was a killer and reflect on that relationship rather than the loss of this guy.

But she was able to not get over former lover and long term partner Doakes in an episode or two and Miguel it only took half an episode.

Meanwhile 3 episodes later she's still pining for her lost lawyer 'friend'

[Formerly D@vid Leeder]

Yeah head writer and executive producer Daniel Cerone left after the second season. The first two seasons were awesome so I'm guessing his departure had something to do with the slight decline this year.

Having said that, it's always harded to keep a great series going than it is to have a great first season.

I just felt this season was a bit patchy, some elements dragged on and on whilst others were neatly resolved in a few minutes, a serious pacing problem imo.

There's also some characters that I'm not sure whose purpose is. Quinn for example, he came in to replace Dokes and it looked for most of the series like he was the head for some kind of major corruption story. After several episodes it ended up as a non story, then it seemed like he might be a possible love interest for Debra as she sought to get over Anton. But again no, so what exactly was his point on the show?

All the stories that were building around his character fizzled out into nothing which made me wonder why they wasted so much script time on him when they could have been developing other parts of the story, maybe concentrating on the existing characters more.

I think we will see Quinn as dirty in the next season. What is meant by 'dirty' will be anyone's guess. Nothing has been proven with him either way as to whether or not the IA investigation was legit. I agree it made no sense to bring that up this season. That side story should have been explored to its fullest in a later season.

I'd like to see at least some of the focus not be on Dexter. Some interesting side stories are there for the exploring. I hate how the lieutenant just completely dropped Doakes. I thought this season she would set out to prove who the real killer was. She knew it wasn't Doakes and knew it was someone in their department and just gave up.

Yeah she pisses me off immensely. I mean she knew Miguel for 20 years and were former lovers, then she goes out on one pub date with that lawyer woman and all of a sudden Miguel killed her 'friend' and she struggles to get over the loss of her?

Get real, if my ex lover, and someone I'd been friends with for 20 years and who was an important part of my life killed a bloke I'd been out to the pub with one time I'd be more gutted about the fact that my ex girlfriend was a killer and reflect on that relationship rather than the loss of this guy.

But she was able to not get over former lover and long term partner Doakes in an episode or two and Miguel it only took half an episode.

Meanwhile 3 episodes later she's still pining for her lost lawyer 'friend'

Keep in mind that Maria Laguerta is the same woman who fucked her Lieutenant's fiancée for awhile until she got her desk back. She's a shallow, self-serving maneater who can't keep a relationship with a man to save her life. Plus, Miguel dumped her and married someone else. Hell hath no fury like a woman scorned.