Does anybody think Valuev won?

[Kel]

there is no way in hell Valuev won. he didnt give off any shots, the only thing he did was get dizzy going round in circles following holyfield.

This comment also echoes my points I was trying to illustrate. If we can agree that neither fighter threw anything of substance in a lot of the rounds, then how is Holyfield winning the rounds by allowing Valuev to follow him around the ring (albeit bloody slowly).

Ok, Holyfield landed more punches than Valuev no doubt at all in my mind about that.

When rounds are slow with nothing much going on you can score that round on ring generalship. He took away Valuev's attack by using lateral movement, something he(Valuev) could not adapt to.

How did you manage to score the fight in Valuev's favour anyway?