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    Default Re: Boxrec RULES!!!!

    How about Ring Magazine's rankings? It looked acceptable enough... PAC is highly ranked simultaneously at 147 and 135 divisions (No PAC rankings at 140? I guess, maybe after the Hatton fight then PAC will be ranked at the same time in 3 divisions, 135, 140 and 147 by Ring Mag )...

    Welterweight
    Limit: 147 pounds

    1. Antonio Margarito
    2. Miguel Cotto
    3. Shane Mosley
    4. Joshua Clottey
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Carlos Quintana
    7. Zab Judah
    8. Luis Collazo
    9. Andre Berto
    10. Isaac Hlatswayo

    Lightweight
    Limit: 135 pounds

    CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
    1. Nate Campbell
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Diaz
    4. Joel Casamayor
    5. David Diaz
    6. Julio Diaz
    7. Antonio Pitalua
    8. Michael Katsidis
    9. Ali Funeka
    10. Yuri Romanov

    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 12-22-2008 at 01:18 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    How about Ring Magazine's rankings? It looked acceptable enough... PAC is highly ranked simultaneously at 147 and 135 divisions (No PAC rankings at 140? I guess, maybe after the Hatton fight then PAC will be ranked at the same time in 3 divisions, 135, 140 and 147 by Ring Mag )...

    Welterweight
    Limit: 147 pounds
    1. Antonio Margarito
    2. Miguel Cotto
    3. Shane Mosley
    4. Joshua Clottey
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Carlos Quintana
    7. Zab Judah
    8. Luis Collazo
    9. Andre Berto
    10. Isaac Hlatswayo

    Lightweight
    Limit: 135 pounds
    CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
    1. Nate Campbell
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Diaz
    4. Joel Casamayor
    5. David Diaz
    6. Julio Diaz
    7. Antonio Pitalua
    8. Michael Katsidis
    9. Ali Funeka
    10. Yuri Romanov


    The case of the ring has nothing to do with what we're talking about here, specifically because he has fought in these two divisions within the last year. You then bring up fightnews whose credibility is only one step above boxrec's, this argument is beyond over even if you don't realize it.
    Let me explain a few things to you here, fightnews is not a sanctioning or officially recognized ranking institution, it is an entity that exists first and foremost to publish current news and events in the world of boxing and MMA, their rankings have very little credibility, because it is simply the opinions of fightnews staff. BoxRec, is literally a site based on keeping records and in general the schedules, the ranking system they use is mostly a plaything for the owners of the site and if you would do any research on the computerized system, you would realize that it mostly used as a resource of marketability of fighters rather than a realistic snapshot of the current standings of boxing this is alluded to by the moderators on the forum of boxrec itself where they discuss the most recent addition to the formula gives a fighter a higher ranking based on who well they rate the promoter. Please do a little research yourself a little bit, because you are coming off as a Pacquiao stalker rather than a fan of the sport.
    Last edited by killersheep; 12-22-2008 at 02:13 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    How about Ring Magazine's rankings? It looked acceptable enough... PAC is highly ranked simultaneously at 147 and 135 divisions (No PAC rankings at 140? I guess, maybe after the Hatton fight then PAC will be ranked at the same time in 3 divisions, 135, 140 and 147 by Ring Mag )...

    Welterweight
    Limit: 147 pounds
    1. Antonio Margarito
    2. Miguel Cotto
    3. Shane Mosley
    4. Joshua Clottey
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Carlos Quintana
    7. Zab Judah
    8. Luis Collazo
    9. Andre Berto
    10. Isaac Hlatswayo

    Lightweight
    Limit: 135 pounds
    CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
    1. Nate Campbell
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Diaz
    4. Joel Casamayor
    5. David Diaz
    6. Julio Diaz
    7. Antonio Pitalua
    8. Michael Katsidis
    9. Ali Funeka
    10. Yuri Romanov


    The case of the ring has nothing to do with what we're talking about here, specifically because he has fought in these two divisions within the last year. You then bring up fightnews whose credibility is only one step above boxrec's, this argument is beyond over even if you don't realize it.
    Let me explain a few things to you here, fightnews is not a sanctioning or officially recognized ranking institution, it is an entity that exists first and foremost to publish current news and events in the world of boxing and MMA, their rankings have very little credibility, because it is simply the opinions of fightnews staff. BoxRec, is literally a site based on keeping records and in general the schedules, the ranking system they use is mostly a plaything for the owners of the site and if you would do any research on the computerized system, you would realize that it mostly used as a resource of marketability of fighters rather than a realistic snapshot of the current standings of boxing this is alluded to by the moderators on the forum of boxrec itself where they discuss the most recent addition to the formula gives a fighter a higher ranking based on who well they rate the promoter. Please do a little research yourself a little bit, because you are coming off as a Pacquiao stalker rather than a fan of the sport.

    Ahhh so you only believed in official sanctioning and ranking organizations like WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and other XYZ boxing organizations?

    Here's their rankings at 135, explain to me the rankings of Valero and Barrera in these official sanctioning and ranking organizations (underlined in red):




    You can't just criticize BoxRec (or FightNews), these sanctioning and ranking orgs, official or otherwise are all the same...

    Even Ring Magazine's ranking system, it has it's own flaws and credibility problems (especially now that it's owned by Golden Boy)...
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    Last edited by XaduBoxer; 12-22-2008 at 02:33 AM.

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    To BoxRec's credit, they dropped Valuev from 7 to 13 after his "win" yesterday!

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    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by killersheep View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    How about Ring Magazine's rankings? It looked acceptable enough... PAC is highly ranked simultaneously at 147 and 135 divisions (No PAC rankings at 140? I guess, maybe after the Hatton fight then PAC will be ranked at the same time in 3 divisions, 135, 140 and 147 by Ring Mag )...

    Welterweight
    Limit: 147 pounds
    1. Antonio Margarito
    2. Miguel Cotto
    3. Shane Mosley
    4. Joshua Clottey
    5. Manny Pacquiao
    6. Carlos Quintana
    7. Zab Judah
    8. Luis Collazo
    9. Andre Berto
    10. Isaac Hlatswayo

    Lightweight
    Limit: 135 pounds
    CHAMPION: Juan Manuel Marquez
    1. Nate Campbell
    2. Manny Pacquiao
    3. Juan Diaz
    4. Joel Casamayor
    5. David Diaz
    6. Julio Diaz
    7. Antonio Pitalua
    8. Michael Katsidis
    9. Ali Funeka
    10. Yuri Romanov


    The case of the ring has nothing to do with what we're talking about here, specifically because he has fought in these two divisions within the last year. You then bring up fightnews whose credibility is only one step above boxrec's, this argument is beyond over even if you don't realize it.
    Let me explain a few things to you here, fightnews is not a sanctioning or officially recognized ranking institution, it is an entity that exists first and foremost to publish current news and events in the world of boxing and MMA, their rankings have very little credibility, because it is simply the opinions of fightnews staff. BoxRec, is literally a site based on keeping records and in general the schedules, the ranking system they use is mostly a plaything for the owners of the site and if you would do any research on the computerized system, you would realize that it mostly used as a resource of marketability of fighters rather than a realistic snapshot of the current standings of boxing this is alluded to by the moderators on the forum of boxrec itself where they discuss the most recent addition to the formula gives a fighter a higher ranking based on who well they rate the promoter. Please do a little research yourself a little bit, because you are coming off as a Pacquiao stalker rather than a fan of the sport.

    Ahhh so you only believed in official sanctioning and ranking organizations like WBC, WBA, IBF, WBO and other XYZ boxing organizations?

    Here's their rankings at 135, explain to me the rankings of Valero and Barrera in these official sanctioning and ranking organizations (underlined in red):




    You can't just criticize BoxRec (or FightNews), these sanctioning and ranking orgs, official or otherwise are all the same...

    Even Ring Magazine's ranking system, it has it's own flaws and credibility problems (especially now that it's owned by Golden Boy)...
    .
    No I only believe the Ring, I think I have made pretty clear my view on the ABC straps, they are crap and rankings are bought and sold to the highest bidder. Next..............................
    For every story told that divides us, I believe there are a thousand untold that unite us.

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