Does anybody think Valuev won?

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I wanted to see Holyfield counterpunch believe me but I didnt hardly see that really I have to say. Not anything to do with Holy not countering when Valuev landed of course but EVRYTHING to do with the whole fight being fought out of range! There was nothing to counter cos nothing was happening! It was an absolutely bizzare fight, like Holyfield fought if he stayed out of range and circled enough eventually Valuev would get dizzy and hit the deck

Orrr....He fought like a man who was outweighed by 100 + lbs,an 11 year age diference,and has been on the down slide for more than a few years,yet he still maintained enough activity to make/keep Valuev overthinking things and apparently deficiant in enough confidence to fight as a Heavyweight Champion.The fight was a bore.....but when does the Fav. and Champion shoulder some responsibility for stinking out the place?If he can not catch up to the old man who is throwing minimal counters and force a taxing pace on him with the age,weight,height advantages he had....Thats on him.Vauev fought like a 2nd rate challenger.

EXACTLY..

that's something like what i was going to say..

directed towards J_C.. Holyfield was not running, he was being smart.. He knows he's not going to win a brawl with someone SO MUCH bigger than him, and was trying to get in and out as much as possible.. Running would have been if Valuev actually attempted to put Evander on the ropes, or walk him into a corner, and Evander was trying to escape instead of fight back.. This was not the case..

You do not get points or an advantage for coming into the ring the bigger guy, and the fight should not be scored that way..