Does anybody think Valuev won?

[ross]

I haave watched the bout and Holyfield didnt land as much as Valuev did plane and simple.

I appreciate Holytfield was a very good fighter but he is a walking contradiction and drug cheat and at 46 has nothing to offer boxing as a competitor as this fight proved, he didnt try to fight, he tried his best to avoid one.

[killersheep]

I haave watched the bout and Holyfield didnt land as much as Valuev did plane and simple.

I appreciate Holytfield was a very good fighter but he is a walking contradiction and drug cheat and at 46 has nothing to offer boxing as a competitor as this fight proved, he didnt try to fight, he tried his best to avoid one.

I guarantee Holyfield landed more often than Valuev. The very thing you accuse Holyfield of doing Valuev is equally guilty of, he did very little to initiate the action at any point.

Do I understand correctly that the entire basis of your argument is that Valuev outlanded Holyfield?

[ross]

Well, that is how you win a boxing match, not be skipping sideways or throwing a couple of shots to arms for an entire match.

[Boom Boom]

Well, that is how you win a boxing match, not be skipping sideways or throwing a couple of shots to arms for an entire match.

Standing in the middle of the ring looking like a lost 6 year old in the mall wins you fights? It all makes sense now, I guess Im not the only won who thinks Oscar beat Pac then...

[killersheep]

Well, that is how you win a boxing match, not be skipping sideways or throwing a couple of shots to arms for an entire match.

So if I could prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that Holyfield landed more, would you say that he won?

[ross]

Ive seen other peoples versions of the punch count on here and they are laughable?

[killersheep]

Ive seen other peoples versions of the punch count on here and they are laughable?

Again, I'll ask the question if I could prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that Holyfield outlanded Valuev would you say that Holyfield won?

[ross]

Well if I were you I wouldnt have wasted my time asking the same question again, I would have put up the unquestinable proof that Holyfield landed more punches in each round.

Either there was an official punch count or there wasnt, if there was, thatll be why Valuev wan