Does anybody think Valuev won?

[ross]

Ive seen other peoples versions of the punch count on here and they are laughable?

[killersheep]

Ive seen other peoples versions of the punch count on here and they are laughable?

Again, I'll ask the question if I could prove to you beyond a shadow of a doubt that Holyfield outlanded Valuev would you say that Holyfield won?

[ross]

Well if I were you I wouldnt have wasted my time asking the same question again, I would have put up the unquestinable proof that Holyfield landed more punches in each round.

Either there was an official punch count or there wasnt, if there was, thatll be why Valuev wan

[killersheep]

Well if I were you I wouldnt have wasted my time asking the same question again, I would have put up the unquestinable proof that Holyfield landed more punches in each round.

Either there was an official punch count or there wasnt, if there was, thatll be why Valuev wan

So for a lack of a punch count we're in the realm of hearsay, and I can tell you right now, the number of punches landed is not how you judge a fight or else there would be a requirement of punch stats on every fight.
Again your entire argument is based on hearsay just like the claim the Holyfield did steroids.

[KananKrus]

Anyone who thought Valuev won, can still nominate the same, Valuev vs. Holyfield, for "Fight of the Year" honors!

[CGM]

Ok, it's old news I know, but...

I finally got around to watching the whole fight, it was on tv at the bar tonight. Hard to call, Valuev was more consistent and active throught the round, Holyfield usually managed a very brief little flurry at the end of the round. Put it under a magnifying glass and maybe, just maybe you can make a case for Holyfield, but honestly I don't think it was the outrage that most made it out to be. I've seen plenty worse, Incuding Lewis Holyfield I, DLH Trinidad, and others.

Toss a coin, who cares. 108-108 like Plop said. I'm just glad we don't have to call Holyfield champ.

[Mr140]

CGM i going to have to disagree with you Value did nothing to win it Evander Holyfeild even with his flurys landed more punchs during that fight not only that but Value just plodded around not throwing anything that does not win you rounds i would say Holyfeild won the fight plain as day.