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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Completely bogus statement,Hagler was too short to move up
    Really?

    Hagler was 5,9 and a half whereas Roberto Duran who started out as a light weight and gave Hagler one of his hardest fights is only 5,7"

    Look at Pacquiao

    Making excuses for Hagler

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    I think people are letting their ATG p4p list ranking fool them. Calzaghe is a really good figher, who would be competitive with any of the four even likely p4p. People also forget that Calzaghe doesn't spar when he trains, so that would give him a higher tendency to go down in the early rounds. If Hagler could truly hurt Calzaghe, then I think he could win, but I don't see him hurting Calzaghe besides maybe once early, but we've seen how Calzaghe deals with those situations. I think these two are both built of the same clothe in many ways, both are unorthodox southpaws who are undeniably effective, they both like to impose their will, they both can box or fight, they both are better offensively than defensively. They both have that "hardness" to them that makes them so effective.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Completely bogus statement,Hagler was too short to move up
    Really?

    Hagler was 5,9 and a half whereas Roberto Duran who started out as a light weight and gave Hagler one of his hardest fights is only 5,7"

    Look at Pacquiao

    Making excuses for Hagler
    Duran by the time he was done moving up in weight,looked like he ate Duran

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    He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

    On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

    Durrrrr!!!

    Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

    On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

    Durrrrr!!!

    Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him
    You've got to remember though that they didn't really have a proper SMW division then, & that fighters would have to jump up 2 divisions, so there is the possibility that had 168lbs division been there & had good fights that Hagler would have gone up towards the end of his career. Although I do agree he could've acted with a LOT more grace after SRL beat him

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

    On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

    Durrrrr!!!

    Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him
    Super Middleweight division was made a proper division in 1984, now at that time. There was no big names at that weight class at all. So it would of been a waste of time moving up to that weight class, especially with all the big names at Middleweight. Lastly the only other move he could of made was move up to Light Heavyweight and he was clearly too small for that weight class, Ross you know nothing about boxing your an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

    On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

    Durrrrr!!!

    Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him
    Super Middleweight division was made a proper division in 1984, now at that time. There was no big names at that weight class at all. So it would of been a waste of time moving up to that weight class, especially with all the big names at Middleweight. Lastly the only other move he could of made was move up to Light Heavyweight and he was clearly too small for that weight class, Ross you know nothing about boxing your an idiot.
    Dont cry about it

    Hagler wouldve eaten punches all night like Lacy did.

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    shouldn't there have been a grin or something at the end of that second line Ross?

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    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    shouldn't there have been a grin or something at the end of that second line Ross?
    Yeah, but there is no happy medium these days, some people are idolizing the past, others are ignorant to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by ross View Post
    He did move up though now didnt he you silly boy

    On top of that he beat probably the Eighties best fighter, Ray leonard.

    Durrrrr!!!

    Hagler couldve moved up in weight but didnt, Joe could have and did, alot of fighters have and been very successfull, Marvin was happy enough taking on smaller fighters and then retired like a spoilt brat when one beat him
    Super Middleweight division was made a proper division in 1984, now at that time. There was no big names at that weight class at all. So it would of been a waste of time moving up to that weight class, especially with all the big names at Middleweight. Lastly the only other move he could of made was move up to Light Heavyweight and he was clearly too small for that weight class, Ross you know nothing about boxing your an idiot.
    Dont cry about it

    Hagler wouldve eaten punches all night like Lacy did.
    Don't cry about what ? i just gave you a fact and made you look like a tool, which you are. All you try and do is wind people up, you can't have a sensible debate.

    And the only fighters you know about are Mike Tyson, Joe Calzaghe, your boxing knowledge is ridiculous. You even claimed Michael Watson was beating Mike McCallum. Do you honestly ready half the crap you come out with ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire View Post
    All you try and do is wind people up
    Does it hurt that much to admit Hagler would lose to Calzaghe?

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