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Mexico or USA
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USA for sure.
Mexico
I think Brittain is moving up quickly
We shall see from Cuba as more and more of them go pro, but it seems like a pretty diverse field over there.
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U.S
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USA (probably at #1)
Mexico
Puerto Rico
UK
Jamaica (if you count boxers such as Lloyd Honeyghan as well)
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Re: What country has produced the best all around fighters during the past 60 years?
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
“If you want loyalty, buy a dog.” Ricky Hatton
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Agreed, on the plus side though, at least he suffered no major long-term damage from it, and makes a good living in movies now, too often guys who go through that end up with nothing left mentally & struggle to make opportunities for themselves elsewhere.
Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
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10-4, mate
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He obviously wouldn't have gone too far considering Herbie bashed him up good and proper.Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
Also.. It's a bit naughty to class those guys as Jamaican. Honeyghan is British of Jamacian descent. He has lived in South London, England since he was a little kid.
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No, Honeyghan was born in Jamaica, and grew up in Britain. A Brit of Jamaican descent would be someone like Chris Eubank who was 2nd generation. You will also find that guys from the Caribbean who grew up here will class themselves as Jamaican/Trinidadian/St. Lucian rather than British, particularly man like Honeyghan who grew up in South-East London in the 70's. My uncles & most the people where I live are the same, even some 2nd gen or 3rd gen guys my age don't see themselves as British now.He obviously wouldn't have gone too far considering Herbie bashed him up good and proper.Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
Also.. It's a bit naughty to class those guys as Jamaican. Honeyghan is British of Jamacian descent. He has lived in South London, England since he was a little kid.
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hell we're (Puerto Rico) smaller than Jamaica and we have more big name fighters/meaningful champions from 60 to now lol
Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
Carlos Ortiz (ok it was 59 but hell lol)
Jose "Chegui" Torres
Alfredo "Salsero" Escalera (lost his world title to Arguello)
Samuel Serrano
Wilfred Benitez (youngest world champ ever)
Esteban DeJesus (first to beat Duran, and even dropped him in the fights he
lost to Duran)
Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (one of, if not the highest KO percentages in championship fights ever)
Carlos "Sugar" De Leon
Ossie Ocasio
Juan Laporte
Edwin "Chapo" Rosario
Hector "Macho" Camacho
Wilfredo "Wil" Vazquez
John John Molina
Felix "Tito" Trinidad
Alex "El Nene" Sanchez
Eric Morel
Daniel Santos
Nelson Dieppa
Ivan Calderon
Miguel Cotto
and now Juan Manuel Lopez
and that's not counting all the champions just the ones that have had great success in the longterm or in getting positive attention
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hell we're (Puerto Rico) smaller than Jamaica and we have more big name fighters/meaningful champions from 60 to now lol
Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
Carlos Ortiz (ok it was 59 but hell lol)
Jose "Chegui" Torres
Alfredo "Salsero" Escalera (lost his world title to Arguello)
Samuel Serrano
Wilfred Benitez (youngest world champ ever)
Esteban DeJesus (first to beat Duran, and even dropped him in the fights he
lost to Duran)
Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (one of, if not the highest KO percentages in championship fights ever)
Carlos "Sugar" De Leon
Ossie Ocasio
Juan Laporte
Edwin "Chapo" Rosario
Hector "Macho" Camacho
Wilfredo "Wil" Vazquez
John John Molina
Felix "Tito" Trinidad
Alex "El Nene" Sanchez
Eric Morel
Daniel Santos
Nelson Dieppa
Ivan Calderon
Miguel Cotto
and now Juan Manuel Lopez
and that's not counting all the champions just the ones that have had great success in the longterm or in getting positive attention
Thats a bold statement, more big names fighters than who? Someone made an accurate comment on this thread about the US having more ATG fighters than any other country in the world so what country are you saying that P.R. has more than?
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Good list bro. But you forgot Angel "Cholo" Espada, and probably a few others.hell we're (Puerto Rico) smaller than Jamaica and we have more big name fighters/meaningful champions from 60 to now lol
Wow, I forgot about Jamaica. On a per capita basis, it ranks very high, indeed.
A series of five monster upsets all by tough Jamaican fighters astounded me.
Trevor Berbick’s 1980 ambush KO of Big John Tate in Montreal set the stage for four more shockers. The welterweight champion Lloyd Honeyghan, nicknamed “Ragamuffin” due to his Jamaican roots, defeated heavily favored Donald Curry in 1986. In an equally stunning upset, welterweight Kirkland Laing (43-12-1) beat Roberto Duran in 1982.
And there was the notable amateur fighter, Michael Bentt, former WBO
Heavyweight Champ, who knocked out heavily favored Tommy Morrison in
1993 in an incredible first-round upset. The thing about Bentt was that he was very good amateur fighter, and Morrison’s camp had done a terrible
job researching his amateur record. Had he not suffered a career-ending and life-threatening injury in his fight with Herbie Hide, there is no telling how far he could have gone.
And who could forget the great Simon “Mantequilla” Brown, WBC and IBF
Welterweight Titleholder who KO’d Terry Norris in 1993 for the WBC Light
Middleweight Title in Ring magazine’s Upset of the Year? What made these fights memorable? They were all major upsets, and they were all pulled off by Jamaican fighters.
Carlos Ortiz (ok it was 59 but hell lol)
Jose "Chegui" Torres
Alfredo "Salsero" Escalera (lost his world title to Arguello)
Samuel Serrano
Wilfred Benitez (youngest world champ ever)
Esteban DeJesus (first to beat Duran, and even dropped him in the fights he
lost to Duran)
Wilfredo "Bazooka" Gomez (one of, if not the highest KO percentages in championship fights ever)
Carlos "Sugar" De Leon
Ossie Ocasio
Juan Laporte
Edwin "Chapo" Rosario
Hector "Macho" Camacho
Wilfredo "Wil" Vazquez
John John Molina
Felix "Tito" Trinidad
Alex "El Nene" Sanchez
Eric Morel
Daniel Santos
Nelson Dieppa
Ivan Calderon
Miguel Cotto
and now Juan Manuel Lopez
and that's not counting all the champions just the ones that have had great success in the longterm or in getting positive attention
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