Holyfield on Joe Louis "I'd tear him up!"

[ICB]

When Evan Fields started out his pro career he weighed less than Louis did at his debut.

Evan took growth hormone to get bigger.

Fields is jealous of every other fighter held in higher regard than himself (much like Holmes) and no matter what anyone says alot of people would still make a prime Holyfield an underdog against a prime Tyson, a prime Tyson wiped the floor with Holmes, a prime Holyfield struggled with Tysons older left overs.

The 42 year old version of Larry Holmes was better than the 38 year old version, who was ring rusty and only had a few weeks to train for Mike Tyson. And a prime Larry Holmes would of beat a prime Mike Tyson, even a ring rusty shot Larry Holmes was holding his own against Mike Tyson until he got caught.

[Master]

When Evan Fields started out his pro career he weighed less than Louis did at his debut.

Evan took growth hormone to get bigger.

Fields is jealous of every other fighter held in higher regard than himself (much like Holmes) and no matter what anyone says alot of people would still make a prime Holyfield an underdog against a prime Tyson, a prime Tyson wiped the floor with Holmes, a prime Holyfield struggled with Tysons older left overs.

The 42 year old version of Larry Holmes was better than the 38 year old version, who was ring rusty and only had a few weeks to train for Mike Tyson. And a prime Larry Holmes would of beat a prime Mike Tyson, even a ring rusty shot Larry Holmes was holding his own against Mike Tyson until he got caught.

Tyson was playing with Holmes and biding his time. Prime Tyson would have beaten Holyfield and so could Joe Louis.

[Violent Demise]

In a recent interview with Esquire, Evander Holyfield made these following statements:

"Jesse Owens couldn't even make the Olympic team today. It's the same with boxing. I always just look at Joe Louis, I say, You know what, he kind of slow. I'd tear him up.

People say, Joe Louis had twenty-five consecutive wins as a champion. That's because they didn't have videotape. You couldn't pick up his style unless you was in there with him."

Evander Holyfield is acting like an idiot does he not realize the garbage running tracks, and the garbage running shoes runners had back in those days ? and they certainly didn't have dietitians, and all the supplements runners have to today. Plus steroids which most runners have now and you better believe it.

As for the Joe Louis comment again just pure hating right there, Evander Holyfield was a very good fighter but he also had his faults. He got wobbled badly against B level fighters like Alex Stewart, Bert Cooper.

He almost lost to an ancient Larry Holmes losing the last 3 rounds, and just eeking out a decision by 7-5. He also received a very tough fight against Michael Dokes who was years past his best. And he lost soundly to Riddick Bowe in his prime.

I always respected Evander Holyfield but im starting to dislike him, in the last few years. With all these steroid rumours, 9 illegitimate kids, and him keep fighting well past his best trying to convince us and himself he has something left.

Which he doesn't since 2000s his record is just ridiculous, 1-1-1 John Ruiz, 0-1 against a former Middleweight James Toney, 0-1 Chris Byrd, 0-1 Larry Donald, 0-1 Sultan Ibragimov, 0-1 Nikolai Valuev.

Now IMO he did deserve the win against Nikolai Valuev no question, but just have a look at that record its ridiculous his best win since 2000s is against Hasim Rahman, and even that was on a headbutt.

6-6-1 is his exact record since 2000s why doesn't he just quit ? im starting to lose the respect i used to have for him, and these comments right here don't sound like the Evander Holyfield i used to look up to.

It happens. Galento and Braddock weren't better. They were C level. They dropped and hurt Louis. Conn a non-puncher at Light Heavyweight shook him pretty good.

I agree with Holyfield. I think he smashes Louis.

[Spicoli]

I seriously boubt that he made that comment in malice,though he does sound a bit desperate,hanging on to be relevant?Also...when the helz has he ever run track on an olympic level?Should stick to what he knows...Boxing.I hope he retires off of crappy call vs. Valuev.Time has expired,he needs to step aside.

Alot is made of holyfield and getting tagged.staggered?A heavyweight that gets wobbled,is that new to anyone?Foreman,Louis,Holmes,Dempsy,Lewis,Tyson Etc...all at one point or another have been seriously whacked and or dropped hard.All things considered I honestly thing Holyfield could take Louis,Combination punching and activity level.Louis was an all time legend,due massive respect,what the Government did to him was spineless.He deserved better!!

[donnydarkoIRL]

Holyfield is delusional, Louis is naturally bigger than him, Holyfield need to train with Lee Hainey and take growth hormone to get to heavy.

Same with the runners, they ALL take steroids or another performance enhancer to compete, Owens didnt.

Holyfield is just a bitter old diick, he resents that Mike Tyson is still better known and loved than he is and that Lewis took his glory away.

Joe Louis is a lot smaller than Holyfield.

[hardcore_crash]

You can only imagine if Joe Luis would have had the growth hormone and the type of training that Holyfield had...

[WelshDevilRob]

Holyfield is delusional, Louis is naturally bigger than him, Holyfield need to train with Lee Hainey and take growth hormone to get to heavy.

Same with the runners, they ALL take steroids or another performance enhancer to compete, Owens didnt.

Holyfield is just a bitter old diick, he resents that Mike Tyson is still better known and loved than he is and that Lewis took his glory away.

Joe Louis is a lot smaller than Holyfield.

Michael Moorer started as a Light Heavyweight. He beat Holyfield convincingly in the 1st fight.

I personally think that Louis vs Holyfield would be a great fight but I do favour Louis who had a fantastic jab and a great jab caused Holyfield alot of problems for example old Larry.

Still a great fight and an arguement can be made for both - Holyfield certainly had the busy style to win the rounds.

[Violent Demise]

You can only imagine if Joe Luis would have had the growth hormone and the type of training that Holyfield had...

I'm sure if Holyfield would of faced the bum of the month opponents Louis faced he would of crushed them as well

[hardcore_crash]

You can only imagine if Joe Luis would have had the growth hormone and the type of training that Holyfield had...

I'm sure if Holyfield would of faced the bum of the month opponents Louis faced he would of crushed them as well

That's a good point.

[Spicoli]

Holyfield is delusional, Louis is naturally bigger than him, Holyfield need to train with Lee Hainey and take growth hormone to get to heavy.

Same with the runners, they ALL take steroids or another performance enhancer to compete, Owens didnt.

Holyfield is just a bitter old diick, he resents that Mike Tyson is still better known and loved than he is and that Lewis took his glory away.

Joe Louis is a lot smaller than Holyfield.

Michael Moorer started as a Light Heavyweight. He beat Holyfield convincingly in the 1st fight.

I personally think that Louis vs Holyfield would be a great fight but I do favour Louis who had a fantastic jab and a great jab caused Holyfield alot of problems for example old Larry.

Still a great fight and an arguement can be made for both - Holyfield certainly had the busy style to win the rounds.

Moorer was also a converted southpaw with a double hard fast jab but that was a one point fight.Now doubt Holyfield ate jabs,I thought he was over reliant on his own vs.Holmes but his counter right/left hook were great in return if a guy left it out there.Would have been fun while it lasted.

[rjj tszyu]

Well he has a point but i dont know why he would say somthing like that but lets get real how do you think he would do with the competion that Evander Holyfeild dealed with i mean have you seen some of the fighters Louis fought against for the defences they were not really fighters there is a reason the called it bum of the month club because they were bums. Holyfeild beat Tyson, Bowie, Holmes, Foreman and Moorer all good heavyweights and even in his late 30's gave Lewis in the rematch a good fight i think his age and heart condtion have effected him but he still has fought through it and i could see Holyfeild beating Louis i think Holyfeild was just as good if he were in that era could of done the same thing.

Well personally I think that Louis was just too good for anyone barring Ali. Like I said earlier Holyfield is my favorite ever HW but Joe was just a beast. I don't think that a Prime Louis could KO a prime Holyfield but then again I don't think any heavy in history could have with the exception of Foreman. (I do not think that Holyfield was anywhere near his peak in Bowe III)

For me Louis would beat all of Holyfields opponents at his peak and I know people will disagree saying that he was "too small" but to be honest there isn't that much difference in size between Louis and Holyfield and Holyfield got by fine. To me todays average HW is TOO BIG and that is what the problem with the division is. Most of them are very robotic and someone like a prime Louis, and Holyfield for that matter would have known what todays guys were going to do before they had done it and easily tagged them all night long. That is the same reason I have such high hopes for David Haye, I mean I know he is not the second coming of Ali, but he keeps his weight tight and punches like a mule. So with these benefits plus the factor he is pretty much faster than the whole division I give him a great chance to do well in the heavyweight division.

[rjj tszyu]

Also don't forget that Foreman and Holmes were nowhere near their primes when Holyfield beat them. And neither victories were overly impressive IMO.

[ross]

Regarding Holyfields heart "problem" that was down to growth hormone, thats a problem of his own making.

Holyfield needs to shut up now, hes not relevant and doesnt create any interest in the heavys and is part of the joke that is todays heavys

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[Violent Demise]

Well he has a point but i dont know why he would say somthing like that but lets get real how do you think he would do with the competion that Evander Holyfeild dealed with i mean have you seen some of the fighters Louis fought against for the defences they were not really fighters there is a reason the called it bum of the month club because they were bums. Holyfeild beat Tyson, Bowie, Holmes, Foreman and Moorer all good heavyweights and even in his late 30's gave Lewis in the rematch a good fight i think his age and heart condtion have effected him but he still has fought through it and i could see Holyfeild beating Louis i think Holyfeild was just as good if he were in that era could of done the same thing.

Well personally I think that Louis was just too good for anyone barring Ali. Like I said earlier Holyfield is my favorite ever HW but Joe was just a beast. I don't think that a Prime Louis could KO a prime Holyfield but then again I don't think any heavy in history could have with the exception of Foreman. (I do not think that Holyfield was anywhere near his peak in Bowe III)

For me Louis would beat all of Holyfields opponents at his peak and I know people will disagree saying that he was "too small" but to be honest there isn't that much difference in size between Louis and Holyfield and Holyfield got by fine. To me todays average HW is TOO BIG and that is what the problem with the division is. Most of them are very robotic and someone like a prime Louis, and Holyfield for that matter would have known what todays guys were going to do before they had done it and easily tagged them all night long. That is the same reason I have such high hopes for David Haye, I mean I know he is not the second coming of Ali, but he keeps his weight tight and punches like a mule. So with these benefits plus the factor he is pretty much faster than the whole division I give him a great chance to do well in the heavyweight division.

I give the fight to Holyfield base on the fact that I think he had better chin. I think Holyfield would of took Louis punches better than Louis would of took his.

[holmcall]

Well, That Confirms What I Have Suspected For Some Time Now. The Real Deal Has Dementia.