Lets not forget he did not fight when he was in the army and could keep his titles not to mention when you are fighting bartenders it is easy to make defences and you call Moorer bad well Schemling was even worse and he was past hime prime as well so i did not get the point not only that he knocked Louis out and dominated him hell Holyfeild with condtion of stiff hart lost by a point and both avenged it but Holyfeild lose was not near as bad let me ask you Lyle do people call Holyfeilds comeption the bum of the month club i think not my friend and there is reason why.