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    Default Re: Man...what a fukkin cold winter this is...

    I didn't notice Andre's post before I posted last. He has it right, I DO think it is important to protect what we have and conserve in areas we can conserve in....after all I am considered a Conservative and therefore not to disappoint I am for conservation of wildlife habitats and animals and so on.

    I do not, however, believe that carbon offsets are going to do jack shit...that is a GIANT scam.

    Listen, I enjoy the outdoors, I enjoy being away from cars and pollution as much as anyone else but I also understand that the economies of the world are driven by oil and petroleum products. And I understand that making products, delivering products, and consuming products causes waste and pollution. It's a situation where we need certain stuff and some of the stuff we need creates waste...it's a tough issue to face.

    Also I do find it odd that these same people who want us to drive windup cars are anti-nuclear. Nuclear energy is the next step, it's the cleanest, most efficient form of energy but noooooobody dares build another power plant which could possibly be built to be more efficient than other power plants.

    In closing, I do not agree with the BUSINESS of Global Warming. But I do think pollution is bad and we should look out for our planet....I just don't think it's "An Inconveniant Truth" bad.

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    Default Re: Man...what a fukkin cold winter this is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post

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    I do not, however, believe that carbon offsets are going to do jack shit...that is a GIANT scam.

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    If we agree that carbon emissions are a big problem, and I'm not sure that we do, but if we do agree that they must be reduced, then what exactly is your problem with offsets? Myself, I see them as something of a compromise to vested interests, I don't think Gore, for all his faults, has them as his first choice either. But in theory they should allow reductions in overall emissions.

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    Aside from there being no proof that carbon offsets actually work...I guess we do agree. I still think carbon offsets are the equivilent to paying for indulgences and that is unfair for the people who are not wealthy.

    Sure I think we should try and protect the environment but by PROVEN methods and not some carbon offset scam

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    Default Re: Man...what a fukkin cold winter this is...

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    Aside from there being no proof that carbon offsets actually work...I guess we do agree. I still think carbon offsets are the equivilent to paying for indulgences and that is unfair for the people who are not wealthy.

    Sure I think we should try and protect the environment but by PROVEN methods and not some carbon offset scam
    As is often the case, I'm not quite sure what you are ranting about, but isn't, say, planting a tree a pretty proven way of helping the environment?

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