Hatton - Pacman, If Hatton wins, will he be the p4p number 1?

[hitmann]

People wouldnt want to give it to him because he got beat so soundly by Mayweather a year ago.

If Pacquiao is the p4p number one and has just beaten someone in a higher weight class than Ricky and then gets beaten by Ricky, it will then be a toss up between Calzaghe and Hatton for number one, when was the last time British boxing could say that?

The only reason Hatton wouldnt be is not because he wouldnt deserve it but because he would be begrudged it

Everyone here, or a big majority is singing Pacs praises, if he gets shot down by Hatton there will be excuses, like well Hatton is naturally stronger and De La Hoya was weight drained and tired, well if any of this is said if and when Hatton wins then should Pacquiao be ahead of Calzaghe right now?

good points mate! i got the feeling that people would begrudge it to him aswell because of the mayweather defeat. But having said that, the pacman has been beaten 3 times and has 2 draws. It's all very confusing to work out isnt it! Maybe Calzaghe should be p4p number 1 right now just simply because he is undefeated.

[C-Lo]

I'd say no, I think he'd go back into the top 10 alright but would need a couple more big scalps, most likly he'd have to move up to get the big fights against Cotto, Mosley and Margarito which I don't think he would win...

I see, but isnt hatton already in the top ten p4p?

Yes sir! I think Ring Magazine has him at #10 if I'm not mistaken.

No Hatton wont be p4p king if he wins Pacman! He will move in the top 6 but not number 1 imo.

I think the same thing. If Hatton was already in the top 5, then yes he would be P4P #1 if he beats Pacquiao.

[C-Lo]

People wouldnt want to give it to him because he got beat so soundly by Mayweather a year ago.

If Pacquiao is the p4p number one and has just beaten someone in a higher weight class than Ricky and then gets beaten by Ricky, it will then be a toss up between Calzaghe and Hatton for number one, when was the last time British boxing could say that?

The only reason Hatton wouldnt be is not because he wouldnt deserve it but because he would be begrudged it

Everyone here, or a big majority is singing Pacs praises, if he gets shot down by Hatton there will be excuses, like well Hatton is naturally stronger and De La Hoya was weight drained and tired, well if any of this is said if and when Hatton wins then should Pacquiao be ahead of Calzaghe right now?

good points mate! i got the feeling that people would begrudge it to him aswell because of the mayweather defeat. But having said that, the pacman has been beaten 3 times and has 2 draws. It's all very confusing to work out isnt it! Maybe Calzaghe should be p4p number 1 right now just simply because he is undefeated.

Calzaghe is def not P4P #1. There was a good case for him prior to Pac's year, but now, Pac has seperated himself from Joe.

[hitmann]

People wouldnt want to give it to him because he got beat so soundly by Mayweather a year ago.

If Pacquiao is the p4p number one and has just beaten someone in a higher weight class than Ricky and then gets beaten by Ricky, it will then be a toss up between Calzaghe and Hatton for number one, when was the last time British boxing could say that?

The only reason Hatton wouldnt be is not because he wouldnt deserve it but because he would be begrudged it

Everyone here, or a big majority is singing Pacs praises, if he gets shot down by Hatton there will be excuses, like well Hatton is naturally stronger and De La Hoya was weight drained and tired, well if any of this is said if and when Hatton wins then should Pacquiao be ahead of Calzaghe right now?

good points mate! i got the feeling that people would begrudge it to him aswell because of the mayweather defeat. But having said that, the pacman has been beaten 3 times and has 2 draws. It's all very confusing to work out isnt it! Maybe Calzaghe should be p4p number 1 right now just simply because he is undefeated.

Calzaghe is def not P4P #1. There was a good case for him prior to Pac's year, but now, Pac has seperated himself from Joe.

yeah id probably agree, although pacman vs JMM could have gone either way. OK so most people think that should hatton win he wont be p4p number 1, then that leaves the question who would be? would pacman still be number 1 because he is fighting a guy in a higher division or would it go to somebody else?

[OumaFan]

Right now I'm not sure I'd have him in my top ten so no.

[ross]

OK so most people think that should hatton win he wont be p4p number 1, then that leaves the question who would be? would pacman still be number 1 because he is fighting a guy in a higher division or would it go to somebody else?

It would have to go to the next highest ranked which would be Joe

[Taeth]

Being p4p should be based on consistency not any one fight, we all know styles make fights, but they don't make one fighter consistently dominant, or make one guy consistently win against the top level of opposition no matter who it is.

[Rantcatrat]

The short answer is: No, Hatton wouldn't be #1 p4p.

To be sure, a strong argument would exist, however, if after beating Pacman, Hatton beat the winner of the Juan Diaz v. JMM fight. Additionally, take note that two spots in the top ten would free up if Calzaghe and Bhop retired in the next year (which is very probable).

[Dizaster]

Being p4p should be based on consistency not any one fight, we all know styles make fights, but they don't make one fighter consistently dominant, or make one guy consistently win against the top level of opposition no matter who it is.

Except Mayweather.. But he's out of the game so Fk him... You're statement stands..

[Dizaster]

I think, why can't Hatton be close to number 1 P4P as he's been up to 147 and beat some really decent guys there before being beaten by Mayweather who was P4P 1 and now retired... And Hatton owns 140... But that's exactly it, he's only owning 1 weight class at the moment even with his past exploits.

There are other fighters who are making a good go of getting through their division and actively looking outside their division for more challenges.. They were where Hatton was when he travelled up to 147, and there was big arguement for Hatton being P4P #2 then behind Mayweather, and if he actually beat Mayweather, in my mind would have been #1...


His only let down for the top spot is that he's unable to venture out of 140 anymore,,, and that 140 isn't the most stacked division at the moment by any means.. So the accolades just aren't there for him like other fighers.. His run at it was 1 to 2 years ago... Even if he beats Pac now I feel..

[Phil]

I think, why can't Hatton be close to number 1 P4P as he's been up to 147 and beat some really decent guys there before being beaten by Mayweather who was P4P 1 and now retired... And Hatton owns 140... But that's exactly it, he's only owning 1 weight class at the moment even with his past exploits.

There are other fighters who are making a good go of getting through their division and actively looking outside their division for more challenges.. They were where Hatton was when he travelled up to 147, and there was big arguement for Hatton being P4P #2 then behind Mayweather, and if he actually beat Mayweather, in my mind would have been #1...


His only let down for the top spot is that he's unable to venture out of 140 anymore,,, and that 140 isn't the most stacked division at the moment by any means.. So the accolades just aren't there for him like other fighers.. His run at it was 1 to 2 years ago... Even if he beats Pac now I feel..

he only fought twice at 147 Mayweather and Collazo, its a shame he didn't adjust to 147 because thats where the big fights are now(apart from Pac )

[C-Lo]

good points mate! i got the feeling that people would begrudge it to him aswell because of the mayweather defeat. But having said that, the pacman has been beaten 3 times and has 2 draws. It's all very confusing to work out isnt it! Maybe Calzaghe should be p4p number 1 right now just simply because he is undefeated.

Calzaghe is def not P4P #1. There was a good case for him prior to Pac's year, but now, Pac has seperated himself from Joe.

yeah id probably agree, although pacman vs JMM could have gone either way. OK so most people think that should hatton win he wont be p4p number 1, then that leaves the question who would be? would pacman still be number 1 because he is fighting a guy in a higher division or would it go to somebody else?

Most P4P lists have either Joe Calzaghe or Juan Manuel Marquez as #2 so which ever is at #2 becomes #1.

OK so most people think that should hatton win he wont be p4p number 1, then that leaves the question who would be? would pacman still be number 1 because he is fighting a guy in a higher division or would it go to somebody else?

It would have to go to the next highest ranked which would be Joe

In my P4P list, that would have to go to Juan Manuel Marquez. Ring Magazine has JMM at #2 as well.

[levi#1BoxingFan]

It's not gonna matter because Hatton is gonna get bulldozed!

[bronco]

If Hatton beats Packman, it will be another victory against a blown up lighter wht boxer, Hatton has only beaten men lighter than himself, and strugled, against some boxers, of his own wht class, i'm sure we all know, who they are without a mention from me, Hatton is a 10 stone boxer, a pound for pounder must be able to cover more than one wht, a PFP HE AINT.

[JazMerkin]

If Hatton beats Packman, it will be another victory against a blown up lighter wht boxer, Hatton has only beaten men lighter than himself, and strugled, against some boxers, of his own wht class, i'm sure we all know, who they are without a mention from me, Hatton is a 10 stone boxer, a pound for pounder must be able to cover more than one wht, a PFP HE AINT.

He's only failed to beat one guy so far, I agree with most posters that a victory over Pac would only take him into the top 6, but to say that he's only beaten lighter guys than himself is clearly not true.

Or is Kostya Tszyu, arguably the best Light-Welterweight of all time (although I would rank both Pryor & JCC above him), nothing special? He certainly wasn't lighter having fought his entire pro career at 140. Same with Malignaggi & Urango. He has also won a world title at 147, even if he did look shit doin it.

Now I'm really not saying that he is P4P No.1 so I agree with you there, but to say he's only beaten lighter guys is clearly not true, although he still loses to Pac IMO. Also, I'm really not tryin to take the piss, and I know it's only a boxing forum, but try not using commas so often because it breaks up your sentences too much