Holy crap... Gamboa.

[CutMeMick]

Of course he'll become a champ he's already lined up for a bout vs. Elio Rojas for the vacant WBC strap...

I wish Abner Mares would move up in weight and kick his ass...
I would love to see that matchup in the future at Feather or Super Feather.

If you look at the Feather div. there is no super star there and no dominant fighter.

[Spicoli]

Of course he'll become a champ he's already lined up for a bout vs. Elio Rojas for the vacant WBC strap...

I wish Abner Mares would move up in weight and kick his ass...
I would love to see that matchup in the future at Feather or Super Feather.

If you look at the Feather div. there is no super star there and no dominant fighter.

Thanks for that Mick,been racking my brain wondering who he was headed for.Rojas nothing special but Gamboa to me is strictly fight by fight.You think Mares could/would jump up to 126+....that would be nice.I just see Gamboa getting bigger and in a hurry.Yeah....126 is depleted,Linares,Guerrero going up,Luevano sticking around?Jr. lights is stacked nicely.

To me,as crazy as it sounds,Get Gamboa out of the limelight for a couple of fights.Off the air and get back to basics.They are rushing this guy in a major way and once you get to the top,its hard to climb back up should you fall.will be exciting while its in progress though.

Man,that mega sig of yours sure has a guy scrolling side to side quite a bit to read thread Lol

[Kev]

Of course he'll become a champ he's already lined up for a bout vs. Elio Rojas for the vacant WBC strap...

I wish Abner Mares would move up in weight and kick his ass...
I would love to see that matchup in the future at Feather or Super Feather.

If you look at the Feather div. there is no super star there and no dominant fighter.

Thanks for that Mick,been racking my brain wondering who he was headed for.Rojas nothing special but Gamboa to me is strictly fight by fight.You think Mares could/would jump up to 126+....that would be nice.I just see Gamboa getting bigger and in a hurry.Yeah....126 is depleted,Linares,Guerrero going up,Luevano sticking around?Jr. lights is stacked nicely.

To me,as crazy as it sounds,Get Gamboa out of the limelight for a couple of fights.Off the air and get back to basics.They are rushing this guy in a major way and once you get to the top,its hard to climb back up should you fall.will be exciting while its in progress though.

Man,that mega sig of yours sure has a guy scrolling side to side quite a bit to read thread Lol

Totally different fight style but I see his career going the way of Joel Julio to be honest.

As spicoli says he makes too many basic mistakes. How many fights has he been dropped in now, the last 4?

As he moves up in class he's going to get hit more and harder, it's not a case of if he gets stopped just a question of when it will happen.

[RozzySean]

He needs to stick around 125 for a while. He can grab a belt there, but he'll get his ass kicked if he jumps up to any of the quality fighters at 130.

[RozzySean]

Of course he'll become a champ he's already lined up for a bout vs. Elio Rojas for the vacant WBC strap...

I wish Abner Mares would move up in weight and kick his ass...
I would love to see that matchup in the future at Feather or Super Feather.

If you look at the Feather div. there is no super star there and no dominant fighter.

Thanks for that Mick,been racking my brain wondering who he was headed for.Rojas nothing special but Gamboa to me is strictly fight by fight.You think Mares could/would jump up to 126+....that would be nice.I just see Gamboa getting bigger and in a hurry.Yeah....126 is depleted,Linares,Guerrero going up,Luevano sticking around?Jr. lights is stacked nicely.

To me,as crazy as it sounds,Get Gamboa out of the limelight for a couple of fights.Off the air and get back to basics.They are rushing this guy in a major way and once you get to the top,its hard to climb back up should you fall.will be exciting while its in progress though.

Man,that mega sig of yours sure has a guy scrolling side to side quite a bit to read thread Lol

Guerrero is a disaster waiting to happen. Luevano is another guy that needs to be careful about moving up, but I'd like to see him fight Gamboa eventually.

[ICB]

Of course he'll become a champ he's already lined up for a bout vs. Elio Rojas for the vacant WBC strap...

I wish Abner Mares would move up in weight and kick his ass...
I would love to see that matchup in the future at Feather or Super Feather.

If you look at the Feather div. there is no super star there and no dominant fighter.

I could actually see Abner Mares beating Yuriorkis Gamboa, Abner Mares is a cracking counter puncher. And a counter puncher is what will beat Yuriorkis Gamboa, Abner Mares is one of my favorite prospects at the moment.

I love his sharp shooting/counter punching style, he reminds me a little bit of JMM. Who is possibly my favorite fighter at the moment, i hope Abner Mares can achieve what JMM has i think he for certain has the tools to do it.

[Taeth]

I guess we will see, I don't think I am wrong, and you guys don't think you are wrong one.

On one point to ICB, I respect what you are saying, but it is contradictory to say Gamboa over use of reflexes is a problem because two of your favorite fighters in Whitaker and Jones, used almost solely reflexes in most situations to not get hit, and both did get hit their fair share. They weren't impossible to hit. I just think because Gamboa is moving so quickly he is more likely to get caught off balance and knocked down, you keep on bringing up how many times he has been down, but how many times has he been hurt, or shown the after affects from the knockdowns? They have all been either flash knockdowns or his feet being in the wrong position when he gets hit.

[ICB]

I guess we will see, I don't think I am wrong, and you guys don't think you are wrong one.

On one point to ICB, I respect what you are saying, but it is contradictory to say Gamboa over use of reflexes is a problem because two of your favorite fighters in Whitaker and Jones, used almost solely reflexes in most situations to not get hit, and both did get hit their fair share. They weren't impossible to hit. I just think because Gamboa is moving so quickly he is more likely to get caught off balance and knocked down, you keep on bringing up how many times he has been down, but how many times has he been hurt, or shown the after affects from the knockdowns? They have all been either flash knockdowns or his feet being in the wrong position when he gets hit.

The only difference Taeth is that even though RJJ, Pernell Whitaker. Over used there reflexes they were mostly defensive fighters, and only took risks when they had to. Pernell Whitaker was only knocked down when he clowned too much.

The only real legit knockdown i can remember of Pernell Whitaker's was against Roger Mayweather, the others were mostly balance issues or getting too over confident.

And RJJ as i said hardly ever got caught flush in his prime, and was only knocked down against Lou Del Valle. Which was mostly to do with a wetspot in the ring. Notice that RJJ picked his spots mostly, and only threw lightning combination in spurts. Yuriorkis Gamboa doesn't plus he hasn't ever got defense on his mind at all. Like RJJ, Pernell Whitaker did.

He's too wild infact he actually in some cases reminds me of a very wild version of RJJ, if Yuriorkis Gamboa could think more about defense. Get more technical and use the jab more he will be a force, but until he does he's just a very talented prospect. Who's waiting to get KO'ed despite some of his strong attributes.

[Taeth]

Generally he is too wild, but on Saturday he didn't fight the same way, he was more cautious, he didn't just run in the whole time even though Gonzalez was a guy he could have walked right in on. I think the reason people only throw 20 punches against Gamboa is because they overwhelmed with his speed, power(not true ko power, but he hits hard), output, and movement.

I just rewatched the Gamboa fight last night, and I noticed that Gonzalez did try later on a few times to catch Gamboa with that right hand, and he missed everytime(except one time late when the ref got in the way, which he did a few times too often that fight).

Now I agree 100% Gamboa still has stuff to work on, but to say Saturday night wasn't a vast improvement on the Ramirez and Jimenez fight I would say would be false, and in Gamboa's case it isn't the same stuff other people had to work on. Pacquiao had to learn the basics and learn how to throw something either than his left cross. Gamboa has all the tools already, even defensively, he reacts properly to punches when he sees them coming, he dips well, he bobs well, he has good defensive timing, and obviously those great reflexes, he just needs to respect his opposition more, and learn to hold himself back more. I felt he did to a large degree against Gonzalez, he wasn't rushing headlong in, and he only threw long combinations with his hands by his side a few times.