Haye would Steamroll Areolla

[Taeth]

I don't think Haye gets the credit he deserves defensively, sure he is no Mayweather, but against Barrett he was caught once off balance, but for the most part even when they were trading punches, most of what Monte landed was glancing or hit Haye on the shoulders or missed entirely. I think a fight between Haye and Arreola should be a mismatch in Haye's favor, but it only takes one punch, or him tiring himself out for it to change. Haye had Carl Thompson badly hurt, but he couldn't close the show and was stopped, same with when he fought Solis. It reminded me of Taylor-Pavlik. I think Haye has been learning to relax a little bit, and is pacing himself better.

[Memphis]

I thought that too Taeth, looked really good against Mormeck, strong in the second half of the fight, sticking to a plan. It kinda went out the window against Barrett, Im hoping it was a touch of overenthusiasm what with it being his first 'proper' fight at heavy rather than a return to old ways.

[rjj tszyu]

I don't think Haye gets the credit he deserves defensively, sure he is no Mayweather, but against Barrett he was caught once off balance, but for the most part even when they were trading punches, most of what Monte landed was glancing or hit Haye on the shoulders or missed entirely. I think a fight between Haye and Arreola should be a mismatch in Haye's favor, but it only takes one punch, or him tiring himself out for it to change. Haye had Carl Thompson badly hurt, but he couldn't close the show and was stopped, same with when he fought Solis. It reminded me of Taylor-Pavlik. I think Haye has been learning to relax a little bit, and is pacing himself better.

Me too he is starting to use his natural gifts (i.e. his power and speed) and is mixing them with boxing skills he is learning or has learned in the past but chosen not to use them.

[smashup]

David in only his SECOND fight at Heavyweight demolished Barrett and jumped straight into it with a seasoned pro so of course he was double cautious and his career was over had he have f*cked things up in that fight.
Areolla will be exposed as a man who can't deal with a skilled fighter soon enough and it'd be the same outcome if he fought David.
The occasion got to Haye against Barrett and he put himself under uneccessary pressure which wasn't the case when he was the underdog in Paris against Mormeck and he fought much better.
I think A LOT of our US friends resent him because he's the only thing (barring Vitali) that makes the Heavyweights worth a wank these days and some (not all) will latch on to any old old pile of dog shit and hoodwink themselves into thinking the glory days of past when their fighters dominated the division are still with us.
Sorry but they are long gone
Haye has totally gatecrashed the division in one fight and has done so through showing a HUGE pair and something else fighters these days lack....a Personality and everyone is talking about him.
That must really piss some people off..hahaha

[El Kabong]

Cris Arreola isn't a guy who seems to be in great shape but he's a tough fighter and he's got some good power and a good chin. I HEAR he can box but I have never seen him do it.

You're using Haye's win over Monte Barrett to build up your argument and you don't even begin to recognize that Monte has NEVER been a top teir fighter and it's been even longer since he's truly been competitive in this weightclass vs decent opposition. And Haye got knocked down in that fight!!!!


I'm tired of the David Haye hype machine...he's fought 2 lackluster heavyweights and he's already crying for a title shot. I can't wait for Wlad to whip Haye's ass and ruin Haye's career....he won't be the same, trust me

[rjj tszyu]

Haye is fast. But he's careless. He's not hard to hit. And his power at Heavyweight is overrated. It took him what 5 rounds to put Barrett away? Cliff Couser did it in 2. Arreola crushes him in 2 or 3 rounds. The fight would mirror Arreola-Walker. Haye would start fast. Land some punches. Than he'll go sleep.

Arreola power + Haye chin = Haye flat on his back

Didn't it take Wlad 7 rounds?

Cris Arreola isn't a guy who seems to be in great shape but he's a tough fighter and he's got some good power and a good chin. I HEAR he can box but I have never seen him do it.

You're using Haye's win over Monte Barrett to build up your argument and you don't even begin to recognize that Monte has NEVER been a top teir fighter and it's been even longer since he's truly been competitive in this weightclass vs decent opposition. And Haye got knocked down in that fight!!!!


I'm tired of the David Haye hype machine...he's fought 2 lackluster heavyweights and he's already crying for a title shot. I can't wait for Wlad to whip Haye's ass and ruin Haye's career....he won't be the same, trust me

Wlad has been KO'd by 3 lacklustre HW's and your talking as though he's invincible. I know Haye isn't invincible but I think he has the right stuff to expose Wlad and be the 4th man to KO him.

[El Kabong]

Wlad has been KO'd by 3 lacklustre HW's and your talking as though he's invincible. I know Haye isn't invincible but I think he has the right stuff to expose Wlad and be the 4th man to KO him.

I'm not talking up Wlad like he's invincible, he definently has his flaws however NOBODY has the skill to expose them at this time.

Let's go through Wlad's losses....

Ross Purrity, Wlad was young (22) and thought he could KO everyone which he had done to all but 3 guys he had beaten up to that point. Not only was this fight the first in which Wlad had to go more than 8 rounds it was a 12 round fight! Wlad punched himself out, he didn't pace himself and part of what is to blame was his training which focused on lifting weights and cardio and almost no sparring.

Corrie Sanders, #1 Corrie is a southpaw #2 Corrie is a power puncher you don't usually fight that many southpaws and you damn sure don't fight that many power punching southpaws and pair that along with the disappointment with Lennox Lewis choosing to basically force Wlad to have a tune up fight to stay busy and Wlad wanting to make a statement he was reckless and careless and underestimated the danger that was Corrie Sanders who could have shocked ANYONE at that point in his career.

Lamon Brewster, having just changed trainers and trying too hard to impress everyone and not focusing on the task at had Wlad handed out a BEAT DOWN for 4 rounds to Lamon and honestly Wlad took some horrific shots in that fight and stayed on his feet. Wlad wasn't right mentally for the fight and wasn't really right until he fought Sam Peter because that was his "last shot" at that point in time it seemed as if he'd either beat Sam Peter or retire from boxing.

Now David Haye has shown up vs some bums and has beens and he's been floored an awful lot and he has also slept on some guys and done EXACTLY what Wlad did and punched himself out vs an old vet. Do I think Haye can beat Wlad the way Purrity and Brewster did? HELL NO !!! Haye MAY be able to shock Wlad with a good strong combination but honestly who has landed many combinations on Wladimir recently? And does Haye's power carry up?? Sure he KO'd Barrett and Bonin but those were the expected results AND Barret floored Haye!!!! I am sorry, I just don't see David Haye as any better as Sam Peter was when Wlad fought him and now since Wlad and Manny have built a good thing and Wlad is in a good state mentally that means Haye doesn't have much of a shot especially if he can't make the jab ineffective.

Haye hasn't fought a top 10 heavyweight and already you fanboys have him beating THE MAN of the division....can we say AUDLEY HARRISON?

[rjj tszyu]

Wlad has been KO'd by 3 lacklustre HW's and your talking as though he's invincible. I know Haye isn't invincible but I think he has the right stuff to expose Wlad and be the 4th man to KO him.

I'm not talking up Wlad like he's invincible, he definently has his flaws however NOBODY has the skill to expose them at this time.

Let's go through Wlad's losses....

Ross Purrity, Wlad was young (22) and thought he could KO everyone which he had done to all but 3 guys he had beaten up to that point. Not only was this fight the first in which Wlad had to go more than 8 rounds it was a 12 round fight! Wlad punched himself out, he didn't pace himself and part of what is to blame was his training which focused on lifting weights and cardio and almost no sparring.

Corrie Sanders, #1 Corrie is a southpaw #2 Corrie is a power puncher you don't usually fight that many southpaws and you damn sure don't fight that many power punching southpaws and pair that along with the disappointment with Lennox Lewis choosing to basically force Wlad to have a tune up fight to stay busy and Wlad wanting to make a statement he was reckless and careless and underestimated the danger that was Corrie Sanders who could have shocked ANYONE at that point in his career.

Lamon Brewster, having just changed trainers and trying too hard to impress everyone and not focusing on the task at had Wlad handed out a BEAT DOWN for 4 rounds to Lamon and honestly Wlad took some horrific shots in that fight and stayed on his feet. Wlad wasn't right mentally for the fight and wasn't really right until he fought Sam Peter because that was his "last shot" at that point in time it seemed as if he'd either beat Sam Peter or retire from boxing.

Now David Haye has shown up vs some bums and has beens and he's been floored an awful lot and he has also slept on some guys and done EXACTLY what Wlad did and punched himself out vs an old vet. Do I think Haye can beat Wlad the way Purrity and Brewster did? HELL NO !!! Haye MAY be able to shock Wlad with a good strong combination but honestly who has landed many combinations on Wladimir recently? And does Haye's power carry up?? Sure he KO'd Barrett and Bonin but those were the expected results AND Barret floored Haye!!!! I am sorry, I just don't see David Haye as any better as Sam Peter was when Wlad fought him and now since Wlad and Manny have built a good thing and Wlad is in a good state mentally that means Haye doesn't have much of a shot especially if he can't make the jab ineffective.

Haye hasn't fought a top 10 heavyweight and already you fanboys have him beating THE MAN of the division....can we say AUDLEY HARRISON?

Haye wasn't floored off Barrett it was called a slip watch 8:42.

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=dEdtB8CZSiY

[Manuel "Chubby" Medina]

No Arreola would steamroll Haye, all he has to do is sit on him and roll
Nah but seriously I think Arreola can manhandle him.

[HattonTheHammer]

Haye batters arreola around for a couple of rounds before sending him back to mcdonalds with an overhand right come round 4.

The only possible chance arreola has here is if he manages to land an absoloute monster early up in a round that has haye badly wobble

[Rantcatrat]

Arreola has faced the superior heavyweight competition. The opponents in his last three fights have had a combined record of 70-2-1 -Arreola knocked them each out in three rounds. Arreola ain't the second coming, but he brings a decent game. Consider that Haye's biggest weakness is his chin and Arreola's biggest strength is his mauling power. To say that a fight between Arreola and Haye would be a mismatch in Haye's favor, at least on paper, is unfair to Arreola. Regardless, this fight has little chance of happening because neither fighter wants to see their heavyweight 0 go unless it's in a big money title-fight with a Klitschko.

To judge Haye effectively, I want to see him in with heavyweight who packs a big punch. His ability to use his skill-set efficiently - box and move away from the bigger punchers - will be indicative of how well he does as a heavyweight.

Conversely, to judge Arreola, I want to see him with a fast heavyweight who can box and move (although he showed glimpses of how he can handle that in the fight with Travis Walker).

[smashup]

Cris Arreola isn't a guy who seems to be in great shape but he's a tough fighter and he's got some good power and a good chin. I HEAR he can box but I have never seen him do it.

You're using Haye's win over Monte Barrett to build up your argument and you don't even begin to recognize that Monte has NEVER been a top teir fighter and it's been even longer since he's truly been competitive in this weightclass vs decent opposition. And Haye got knocked down in that fight!!!!


I'm tired of the David Haye hype machine...he's fought 2 lackluster heavyweights and he's already crying for a title shot. I can't wait for Wlad to whip Haye's ass and ruin Haye's career....he won't be the same, trust me

Wlad took SEVEN rounds 9 years ago Lyle
Haye smashes both.
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