Quote Originally Posted by CGM View Post
Guys like Snipes, Witherspoon, Carl Williams, et al were hardly green rookies. I base that on how well they performed in the ring at the time. And on how Holmes performed throughout his reign.

As for hindsight, well I ain't gonna try and argue about which of us is using that.
Renaldo Snipes 22-0-0....biggest fight before Holmes, split decision wins over Gerrie Coetzee and Eddie Mustafa Muhammad

Tim Witherspoon 15-0-0...biggest fight before Holmes, he got a majority decision vs Snipes

Carl Williams 16-0-0...biggest fight before Holmes, a UD over James Tillis

Marvis Frazier 10-0-0...biggest fight before Holmes, a UD vs Joe Bunger

Ossie Ocasio 13-0-0...biggest fight before Holmes, a SD and UD vs Jimmy Young.

Imagine someone with under 20 fights getting a title shot with Wladimir, he already gets enough crap as it is.