James Kirkland vs Joel Julio & Victor Ortiz vs Vivian Harris on March 7th

[Rantcatrat]

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

[killersheep]

Ortiz/Harris looks to be a passing of the torch fight, gonna be tough for Harris to put up a good showing. It begs the question though if Ortiz does win that would make Ortiz #1 and Williams #2 at 154 with a vacant ring title in the balance...................................

Not possible, carnal. Ortiz fights at 140. Not 154.

I got my names fucked up again.

[killersheep]

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

If Kirkland can stop Julio that will be very impressive, I've never seen Joel even close to being hurt, his two losses we pretty one-sided and he was clearly outboxed, but he's had some bombs landed on him and I've never seen him fazed even in the slightest.

[Tito BHB]

AHA! ANYONE ask fellow poster hitmanhatton yeah!

We were talking about up coming fights and he tells me word is their gonna step up vic ortiz and hes gonna get a big name next fight.. and he asks me..
who you recon

And i replied.. quite seriously.. but somewhat jokingly cause in a funny was its something that they would do..

Bet they give him Viv Harris!

And what do you know.. LOLL

Ortiz'll wreck ol viv.. bless him hes a good guy and once a good fighter but theres no place for him among the current jr welterweight crop and i doubt he can hang with alot of the young prospects right now either..

[Tito BHB]

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

If Kirkland can stop Julio that will be very impressive, I've never seen Joel even close to being hurt, his two losses we pretty one-sided and he was clearly outboxed, but he's had some bombs landed on him and I've never seen him fazed even in the slightest.

his last fight was a mistake a' to make a'.. im pretty sure i read there was several less dangerous fights for him to take for more money and for titles..
but instead he took a so so purse for a fight in germany? was it?

Its pretty easy to keep up with joel julio's career cause dan rafael is really quite the fan of him and dispite julio's flaws rafael always seems to be wishing him the best and really wants him to make it big in the boxing game.. lol which is fair enough.
But yeah i dont think julio is down with southpaws.. i think he caught a very lopsided loss last time out and there are some managerial problems that need sorting with him.. cause the right decisions arent bieng made and nobody was going to go ranting that julio was ducking this guy from germany and nobody was getting called out.. it was just a bad choice..

[Violent Demise]

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

I didn't fight the footage either. But I did see it. Other than both fighting at 154 and both being south paws Kirkland and Dzinzurik have nothing in common. There fighting styles are nothing a like. So to say Julio can't beat Kirkland cuz he lost to Dzinzurik is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

[CutMeMick]

Been thinking about these fights since the day it was posted here's what I have...

I only see this ending as a loss for Kirkland.
I think if he goes wild, he'll get caught by the more composed Julio.
I also think Julios got the skills to outbox Kirkland.


As for "Vicious" I think he sparks out Harris inside of 4 rounds.
I'll be honest I don't like the fact that he's sparking out his opponents so quickly. I'd like to see him get in there with someone durable like Josesito Lopez or Randall Bailey...

[amat]

I don't know if it means much but Julio was hurt once in the Carlos Quintana fight by a body shot I forget what round. That's obscure and might not mean much but Kirkland is a competent body puncher you never know.

I would like to see Julio in against Tsurkan I don't think he can match explosiveness with Kirkland he has been awfully cautious to punch since the Quintana fight. He's not getting chances to set up punches. To bad he didn't stay working with Pernell Whitaker and Mark Breland they had him improved a lot in the time they had him.

[Rantcatrat]

Julio by early knock out in an exciting fight. Ortiz destroys the shot Harris in what is disgraceful mismatch. Ortiz should be fighting a fellow youngster like Marcos Maidana or Devon Alexander. Beating up Carlos Maussa scraps don't mean shiit.

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

I didn't fight the footage either. But I did see it. Other than both fighting at 154 and both being south paws Kirkland and Dzinzurik have nothing in common. There fighting styles are nothing a like. So to say Julio can't beat Kirkland cuz he lost to Dzinzurik is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

That wasn't what I said, so it can't be the dumbest thing you have ever read - .

I only meant - keep Julio's skills in perspective, he has been outboxed before.

[Violent Demise]

You do realize Dzinzurik outclassed Julio in Julio's last fight? I can't fight the footage .

Kirkland wins by late stoppage in a good fight and Ortiz destroys Harris.

I didn't fight the footage either. But I did see it. Other than both fighting at 154 and both being south paws Kirkland and Dzinzurik have nothing in common. There fighting styles are nothing a like. So to say Julio can't beat Kirkland cuz he lost to Dzinzurik is one of the dumbest things I've ever read.

That wasn't what I said, so it can't be the dumbest thing you have ever read - .

I only meant - keep Julio's skills in perspective, he has been outboxed before.

Why does that matter? Kirkland can't box

[phillies]

Big punchers Joel Julio, James Kirkland to rumble March 7 - ESPN


I like the match up between Kirkland and Julio. Both are heavy hitters, and I think it will be a good test for Kirkland. I have to think on who I'll pick for this one. I like Kirkland, but Julio has some good experience, and I think will really show the holes in Kirklands defense.

I haven't seen enough of Victor Ortiz to make a good judgement on this one, but again, I think this will be a good test for him.

Julio by KO inside 7 rounds.

[SaltyBacon]

julio ko kirkland

ortiz thrashes harris

[Diane]

Well it looks like Ortiz has a new opponent.

This was just on Dan Rafael's chat.


Grey (Cape Cod, MA): I saw on the schedule that Victor Ortiz is now fighting Mike Arnaoutis. Did Vivian Harris price himself out?

Dan Rafael: (12:44 PM ET ) He and his adviser gave Golden Boy more trouble than he was worth and they basically went on the theory that life is too short and I don't blame them. I think Arnaoutis is a better fight actually.

[OumaFan]

Much better opponent. I smiled at the fact that Vivian's still difficult to work with, don't you have to be relevant to be difficult?

[killersheep]

Arnoutis is a great opponent, not much power, but he has pinpoint accuracy, great footwork and a decent jab. If Ortiz can get through Arnoutis it will be a much bigger statement to me than beating old man Harris.