Kahn v Barrera???

[JT Rock]

Barrera is done and for the taking.. He is shopworn and cant compete at A level anymore... Unless he sparks Kahn out early, he will be repeatedly beat to the punch by a much faster strong young man with plenty of vigor..

You're suggesting Khan is A level?
Holy shat.

This is the same Amir Khan that was doubled over from one body shot, from a smaller/shot Michael Gomez. And remind me Missy what is MAB's favorite punch

Classic case of romance for an old war horse..

So what your saying is that MAB wont be beat to the punch consistently by a faster, stronger, younger fighter with excellent athleticism who will outwork Barrera?


Missy I'm saying Barrera is probably C+ at this point of his career

[Master]

The fact that Barrera had retired is a also a factor too. He will have let his body go by boxers standard and more importantly once a fighter thinks about retiring, emotionally he is beat by a young fresh faster and hungrier fighter.

[GAME]

To say Barrera is a c+ fighter you must be 1 of three things

1. Off your head
2. A hater
3. A wind up merchant

[JT Rock]

To say Barrera is a c+ fighter you must be 1 of three things

1. Off your head
2. A hater
3. A wind up merchant

I dont know to many A-B fightrs that arent ranked in the top 10 in their division

Show me were the Ring magazine ranks Barrera

[ICB]

To say Barrera is a c+ fighter you must be 1 of three things

1. Off your head
2. A hater
3. A wind up merchant

I dont know to many A-B fightrs that arent ranked in the top 10 in their division

Show me were the Ring magazine ranks Barrera

Thats because MAB has moved up and has only had one fight against a nobody, thats why he isn't rated in the top 10 rankings in that weightclass ? but if you honestly think if MAB was still at Super Featherweight he shouldn't be rated above guys like Nicky Cook, Mzonke Fana, Rocky Juarez, then im speechless.

[GAME]

To say Barrera is a c+ fighter you must be 1 of three things

1. Off your head
2. A hater
3. A wind up merchant

I dont know to many A-B fightrs that arent ranked in the top 10 in their division

Show me were the Ring magazine ranks Barrera

Thats because MAB has moved up and has only had one fight against a nobody, thats why he isn't rated in the top 10 rankings in that weightclass ? but if you honestly think if MAB was still at Super Featherweight he shouldn't be rated above guys like Nicky Cook, Mzonke Fana, Rocky Juarez, then im speechless.

Exactly . I think he is missing the point that Barrera has been retired.

Floyd is no longer ranked. Does that make him a c+ fighter ? Nope . he could return tomorrow and be the best in the wordl even if "ring magazine" doesnt agree.


quote from violent demise

I can see Barrera having a hard time dealing with Con's speed early on. But Barrera just needs to land one flush shot. That's it. The flashbacks will start flooding Con's mind and he'll freeze up. Barrera will see it and jump on him. Barrera by mid round knock out. Con fires Roach afterwards.

Agreed. Barrera may struggle abit with the speed and size of Khan but hes dealt with bigger obstacles. Pac was quick but Barrera negated his speed with his ringcraft so Pac was pretty much stuck in the mud. Thats why it was such a boring fight. If Barrera chooses to he can just not allow Khan to him him whatso ever. Like Steve Bunce said. If he can stop Khan and Marquez overwhelming him then what chance has Khan got.

As for the people who are saying Barrera is washed up , yes he is past his best , nobody can dispute that but to beat him you have to be pretty decent . Khan is not. Gomez hurt him to head and Body . Limond had him down and badly staggered. khan was knocked cold by an unknown. he was floored in the ametuares when he was wearing head gear. What has he ever done to convince people he could beat one of the gratest fighters ever?

[skel1983]

Intresting that the odds have gone nearly full circle, when the fight was announced they had Barrera the 1/2 favourite, now most bookies have Kahn at 4/7.

[ICB]

You're suggesting Khan is A level?
Holy shat.

This is the same Amir Khan that was doubled over from one body shot, from a smaller/shot Michael Gomez. And remind me Missy what is MAB's favorite punch

Classic case of romance for an old war horse..

So what your saying is that MAB wont be beat to the punch consistently by a faster, stronger, younger fighter with excellent athleticism who will outwork Barrera?


Missy I'm saying Barrera is probably C+ at this point of his career

Come off it JT seriously this is the same Amir Khan, that was knocked senseless by a fighter who only stopped fighters with losing records. He was almost stopped twice by a much smaller/shot fighter in Michael Gomez.

He has some good attributes like speed/athleticism, but didn't MAB take away most of Manny Pacquiao's speed/atheleticism, by boxing smart ? Manny Pacquiao basically won because he outworked MAB, but i think MAB will obviously be much more offensive in this fight, because he had much more to fear against Manny Pacquiao, i think MAB puts Amir Khan down and out with body shots.

Lastly if MAB is a C+ fighter at this time then what does that make JMM ? Manny Pacquiao ? B class fighters ? because JMM just about beat MAB, and MAB gave Manny Pacquiao an awkward 12 rounder. And stealing atleast 3 or 4 rounds. And these fights wern't that long ago either remember that.

[skel1983]

This is the same Amir Khan that was doubled over from one body shot, from a smaller/shot Michael Gomez. And remind me Missy what is MAB's favorite punch

Classic case of romance for an old war horse..

So what your saying is that MAB wont be beat to the punch consistently by a faster, stronger, younger fighter with excellent athleticism who will outwork Barrera?


Missy I'm saying Barrera is probably C+ at this point of his career

Come off it JT seriously this is the same Amir Khan, that was knocked senseless by a fighter who only stopped fighters with losing records. He was almost stopped twice by a much smaller/shot fighter in Michael Gomez.

He has some good attributes like speed/athleticism, but didn't MAB take away most of Manny Pacquiao's speed/atheleticism, by boxing smart ? Manny Pacquiao basically won because he outworked MAB, but i think MAB will obviously be much more offensive in this fight, because he had much more to fear against Manny Pacquiao, i think MAB puts Amir Khan down and out with body shots.

Lastly if MAB is a C+ fighter at this time then what does that make JMM ? Manny Pacquiao ? B class fighters ? because JMM just about beat MAB, and MAB gave Manny Pacquiao an awkward 12 rounder. And stealing atleast 3 or 4 rounds. And these fights wern't that long ago either remember that.

Marquez v MAB was two years ago, Barrera has been very inactive recently and has already retired once, in his last fight looked very flabby but maybe he wasnt taking it that serious, i will leave judgement till the weigh in.

[JT Rock]

Classic case of romance for an old war horse..

So what your saying is that MAB wont be beat to the punch consistently by a faster, stronger, younger fighter with excellent athleticism who will outwork Barrera?


Missy I'm saying Barrera is probably C+ at this point of his career

Come off it JT seriously this is the same Amir Khan, that was knocked senseless by a fighter who only stopped fighters with losing records. He was almost stopped twice by a much smaller/shot fighter in Michael Gomez.

He has some good attributes like speed/athleticism, but didn't MAB take away most of Manny Pacquiao's speed/atheleticism, by boxing smart ? Manny Pacquiao basically won because he outworked MAB, but i think MAB will obviously be much more offensive in this fight, because he had much more to fear against Manny Pacquiao, i think MAB puts Amir Khan down and out with body shots.

Lastly if MAB is a C+ fighter at this time then what does that make JMM ? Manny Pacquiao ? B class fighters ? because JMM just about beat MAB, and MAB gave Manny Pacquiao an awkward 12 rounder. And stealing atleast 3 or 4 rounds. And these fights wern't that long ago either remember that.

Marquez v MAB was two years ago, Barrera has been very inactive recently and has already retired once, in his last fight looked very flabby but maybe he wasnt taking it that serious, i will leave judgement till the weigh in.

Exactly

[Spicoli]

These are very,very deep waters for Khan,even at this point in Barreras career.A young up and coming fighter who has very recently been bomed out in 1 round for his first professional defeat will have a huge monkey on his back going in against a certified HOF....albeit an oldie like Barrera.I'd like to see Barrera physically when it gets close to fight time,surely he won't come in as a flabby unfocused has been given yet another huge oppurtunity?Then again,Barrera can be in great shape but one thing he can not regain in the gym are the many years,undo the wars and just regain that instinct to pull the trigger.Khan has youth and reflex with some skills but I want to see where his mind/confidence are?

[ICB]

Classic case of romance for an old war horse..

So what your saying is that MAB wont be beat to the punch consistently by a faster, stronger, younger fighter with excellent athleticism who will outwork Barrera?


Missy I'm saying Barrera is probably C+ at this point of his career

Come off it JT seriously this is the same Amir Khan, that was knocked senseless by a fighter who only stopped fighters with losing records. He was almost stopped twice by a much smaller/shot fighter in Michael Gomez.

He has some good attributes like speed/athleticism, but didn't MAB take away most of Manny Pacquiao's speed/atheleticism, by boxing smart ? Manny Pacquiao basically won because he outworked MAB, but i think MAB will obviously be much more offensive in this fight, because he had much more to fear against Manny Pacquiao, i think MAB puts Amir Khan down and out with body shots.

Lastly if MAB is a C+ fighter at this time then what does that make JMM ? Manny Pacquiao ? B class fighters ? because JMM just about beat MAB, and MAB gave Manny Pacquiao an awkward 12 rounder. And stealing atleast 3 or 4 rounds. And these fights wern't that long ago either remember that.

Marquez v MAB was two years ago, Barrera has been very inactive recently and has already retired once, in his last fight looked very flabby but maybe he wasnt taking it that serious, i will leave judgement till the weigh in.

My point is in MAB's last few fights he gave the two best P4P fighters in the world, good fights so i fail to see how he can be a "C+" fighter at this point in time. Yes he did look a bit flabby in his last fight, but that was the first time he has fought at that weight.

He's just getting the rounds in, which is why he's having another tune up fight before the Amir Khan fight. He's keeping busy getting the rounds in and also getting used to the weight which is what a true pro does.

[JT Rock]

Barrera is a great a hall of famer and I am an admirer of his, his track record is stellar.

He aint what he used to be, and this is not a good style matchup for him, plain and simple

The facts have been presented, he is an old warhorse with a ton of miles on him, he has retired and had been relegated to fighting a no namer with 18 losses in a chinese gym

Next he is fighting a 17-4-4 fighter in his native mexico

Your going to tell me he aint C+ and still is a top level performer

Those are the indisputable facts

[ICB]

Barrera is a great a hall of famer and I am an admirer of his, his track record is stellar.

He aint what he used to be, and this is not a good style matchup for him, plain and simple

The facts have been presented, he is an old warhorse with a ton of miles on him, he has retired and had been relegated to fighting a no namer with 18 losses in a chinese gym

Next he is fighting a 17-4-4 fighter in his native mexico

Your going to tell me he aint C+ and still is a top level performer

Those are the indisputable facts

No there not facts your bending the truth the fact is how isn't this a good style match up for him ? Manny Pacquiao is faster and more athletic than Amir Khan, yet MAB was able to box smart and hardly get caught with anything devastating, and gave a very good account of himself.

He hasn't showed he has loads of miles on the clock, thats your opinion and a wrong one at that. So your honestly gonna tell me that MAB looked like a fighter with loads of miles on the clock against the two best P4P fighters in the world ?

Lastly he is fighting no namers for tune up fights which is obvious, and too also get used to the weight he obviously isn't going to fight one of the best Lightweights in the world, for a tune up fight is he ?

[JT Rock]

Barrera is a great a hall of famer and I am an admirer of his, his track record is stellar.

He aint what he used to be, and this is not a good style matchup for him, plain and simple

The facts have been presented, he is an old warhorse with a ton of miles on him, he has retired and had been relegated to fighting a no namer with 18 losses in a chinese gym

Next he is fighting a 17-4-4 fighter in his native mexico

Your going to tell me he aint C+ and still is a top level performer

Those are the indisputable facts

No there not facts your bending the truth the fact is how isn't this a good style match up for him ? Manny Pacquiao is faster and more athletic than Amir Khan, yet MAB was able to box smart and hardly get caught with anything devastating, and gave a very good account of himself.

He hasn't showed he has loads of miles on the clock, thats your opinion and a wrong one at that. So your honestly gonna tell me that MAB looked like a fighter with loads of miles on the clock against the two best P4P fighters in the world ?

Lastly he is fighting no namers for tune up fights which is obvious, and too also get used to the weight he obviously isn't going to fight one of the best Lightweights in the world, for a tune up fight is he ?

I dont care how much you try to shovel my way

World class operators dont fight in chinese gyms with 17 loss fighters nor do they fight 17 fight guys with 4 losses..

Its apparent and you are doing what you do best here and thats try to baffle with BS..

Keep your opinion because Im not changing mine.. end of!!!! He isnt what he used to be.. Do you even remember how many rounds he won in the 24 against Pac and JMM I dont care about your score card Im talking about the official...

109-118 2X 112-115 once Pac

111-116 2x 109-118 once JMM

I would hardly call that impressive, so yea that shoots the argument you made to shit