Kahn v Barrera???

[ICB]

Why are you racist against whites?

Because im an albino

you're not fooling anyone, ice

we all know you LOVE Calzaghe. Fact.

I love him like i love my girl's mom when i lay her out i love her

[GAME]

Would you suggest that Khan is anywhere nearly as good as Manny though? Or remotely as good as JMM? Or that Barrera could be stopped in 1 by a complete nobody as Khan himself was?

On that note your pick is not entirely logical. No offence, JT, but Barrera beats Khan because Khan is simply not good enough.

Were talking about a fighter that is quick and fast and good power.. Barrera is way past his best at this point... If were talking about the Barrera of a few years ago, I give Kahn no chance... Khan has tremendous upside I mean Juarez is nothing special and fought to arguably a draw against Marco almost 3 years ago.

I just think its going to be a case of youth and athleticism lasting over age and deterioation

Barrera won the first fight by enough in my reckoning and then boxed his ass off in the rematch. The second fight was a fight won with a jab because he wanted to show it was all he needed! Khan certainly doesnt have the chin of Juarez. And beyond that you have a fight in which Barrera gave Marquez a serious run for his money and then gave a lame showing against the best fighter in the world. And suddenly Amir kahn is going to cause an upset?

You have your opinion, but I will go against it in this case. I think Barrera is stil too good for Khan.

I can see where JT is coming from Khan is younger faster, probably stronger , fitter etc. Plus Barrera has lost 2 of his last 3 and had his debut in 1989 now he is moving up in weight so it all looks bad for Barrera

However I agree with Miles. Thats just looking at the face of it. Barrera had close losses against the top 2 p4p fighters in the world ( there was some commentary that had him beating Pac and Marquez ) where as Amir has been boxing at a much lower and is being trobled by guys like Limond, Gomez and Precott.

Boxing is about timing and Amir thinks he has got Barrera at the right time and Id agree but even though he has him at the right time he still doesnt have the tools to beat him . I think it would be a big shock if he came back from his poor performances to beat an ATG like Marco . Its like Audley schooling Wvlad. I cant see it .

[JT Rock]

Would you suggest that Khan is anywhere nearly as good as Manny though? Or remotely as good as JMM? Or that Barrera could be stopped in 1 by a complete nobody as Khan himself was?

On that note your pick is not entirely logical. No offence, JT, but Barrera beats Khan because Khan is simply not good enough.

Were talking about a fighter that is quick and fast and good power.. Barrera is way past his best at this point... If were talking about the Barrera of a few years ago, I give Kahn no chance... Khan has tremendous upside I mean Juarez is nothing special and fought to arguably a draw against Marco almost 3 years ago.

I just think its going to be a case of youth and athleticism lasting over age and deterioation

Barrera won the first fight by enough in my reckoning and then boxed his ass off in the rematch. The second fight was a fight won with a jab because he wanted to show it was all he needed! Khan certainly doesnt have the chin of Juarez. And beyond that you have a fight in which Barrera gave Marquez a serious run for his money and then gave a lame showing against the best fighter in the world. And suddenly Amir kahn is going to cause an upset?

You have your opinion, but I will go against it in this case. I think Barrera is stil too good for Khan.

Barrera is done and for the taking.. He is shopworn and cant compete at A level anymore... Unless he sparks Kahn out early, he will be repeatedly beat to the punch by a much faster strong young man with plenty of vigor..

Kahn has a great corner now and PFP#1 to work with and learn from, consequently the same guy who humiliated and handed Barrera his ass once and then snoozed his way to beating an uninterested and flat Marco a second time.. I love barrera and he is an alltime great, who has given us so much over the years.. But if there is one thing Roy Jones, Evander Holyfield, James Toney taught me is that when your done your done and no fighter can escape that not Casamayor, not Castillo, not Morales, not Tarver, Not Delahoya.. Mosely is about to find it out soon too

Hopkins is the extreme rare exception and thats because he isint shop worn

[X]

Well, at least the fight seems to have stirred up lots of debate on here (and in the papers).

Amir Khan's best selling point is that he's known to non-boxing fans, which came as a result of his Olympic successes. The good news for him is that means he will sell lots of tickets and PPV hits ...... the bad news is that some of the great unwashed out there WILL dislike him because he is of Pakistani origin. That is a sad fact of life.

Khan seems like a decent enough young guy - I'm sure he feels a bit like Joe Louis following Jack Johnson insofar that he must know that Naz was hugely unpopular by the time he's finished (and that comparison, when one is of Yemeni Arab background, and one of Pathan Pakistani Asian background says everything about the stupidity of people who see 'colour')

Yeah - Khan will drive like an idiot at times and say stupid things - but that's because of his age. Most people at age 20, or whatever, who win Olymic smedals, become media celebrities, multimillionaires etc become successful pro fighters and who are contenders would act a whole lot worse that this lad has been.

MAB is without doubt an all time great fighter, and one of my personal favourites. He has been there, done it and got the T shirt and is a shoo in to the Hall of Fame. Originally a typical Mexican slugger he evolved his style to become quite a cagey boxer when he has to. I don't think anyone here would disagree that a prime MAB would defeat Khan at this stage of his career. He is coming up in weight and was never a one punch kayo artist anyway, he is older, smaller and slower that Khan - Amir will be hungry and desperate for this one too.

We know Khan is a slick talented boxer, good footwork, good offence, but he has a dodgy chin and does fall into wars when he shouldn't. Warren has to get him as big a fight as possible to maximise his income - I think Khan will be found out and kayoed again, why not make it to Barrera for millions rather than for a few grand to a clubfighter somewhere?

The question is ....... does the ghost of Barrera have enough left to get at Amir Khan's chin?

I think Khan comes out fast, looking for the KO. He will find out that Barrera is too cute and he will then settle for jabbing and scoring from distance. Barrera will have a bit few rounds in the 6th-8th and have Amir holding on and in trouble ...... but it will be too little, too late and he will find he can't pull the trigger like he used to. Despite the loss, he will go on to fight for his next world title and will win it.

The Khan bandwagon will roll on, he will get his shot following the Barrera win. He will win against a poor champion, make several million outside the ring, make a couple of defenses against the usual suspects and domestic opposition ..... and will lose as soon as he faces a young hungry fighter who can hit.

Good luck to him - I like people who make the most of their talents (however limited .... look at Valuev) and can't stand those that piss it up the wall like ol' Riddick. Khan will make the most of himself because that's the kind of person he is.

[JT Rock]

Well, at least the fight seems to have stirred up lots of debate on here (and in the papers).

Amir Khan's best selling point is that he's known to non-boxing fans, which came as a result of his Olympic successes. The good news for him is that means he will sell lots of tickets and PPV hits ...... the bad news is that some of the great unwashed out there WILL dislike him because he is of Pakistani origin. That is a sad fact of life.

Khan seems like a decent enough young guy - I'm sure he feels a bit like Joe Louis following Jack Johnson insofar that he must know that Naz was hugely unpopular by the time he's finished (and that comparison, when one is of Yemeni Arab background, and one of Pathan Pakistani Asian background says everything about the stupidity of people who see 'colour')

Yeah - Khan will drive like an idiot at times and say stupid things - but that's because of his age. Most people at age 20, or whatever, who win Olymic smedals, become media celebrities, multimillionaires etc become successful pro fighters and who are contenders would act a whole lot worse that this lad has been.

MAB is without doubt an all time great fighter, and one of my personal favourites. He has been there, done it and got the T shirt and is a shoo in to the Hall of Fame. Originally a typical Mexican slugger he evolved his style to become quite a cagey boxer when he has to. I don't think anyone here would disagree that a prime MAB would defeat Khan at this stage of his career. He is coming up in weight and was never a one punch kayo artist anyway, he is older, smaller and slower that Khan - Amir will be hungry and desperate for this one too.

We know Khan is a slick talented boxer, good footwork, good offence, but he has a dodgy chin and does fall into wars when he shouldn't. Warren has to get him as big a fight as possible to maximise his income - I think Khan will be found out and kayoed again, why not make it to Barrera for millions rather than for a few grand to a clubfighter somewhere?

The question is ....... does the ghost of Barrera have enough left to get at Amir Khan's chin?

I think Khan comes out fast, looking for the KO. He will find out that Barrera is too cute and he will then settle for jabbing and scoring from distance. Barrera will have a bit few rounds in the 6th-8th and have Amir holding on and in trouble ...... but it will be too little, too late and he will find he can't pull the trigger like he used to. Despite the loss, he will go on to fight for his next world title and will win it.

The Khan bandwagon will roll on, he will get his shot following the Barrera win. He will win against a poor champion, make several million outside the ring, make a couple of defenses against the usual suspects and domestic opposition ..... and will lose as soon as he faces a young hungry fighter who can hit.

Good luck to him - I like people who make the most of their talents (however limited .... look at Valuev) and can't stand those that piss it up the wall like ol' Riddick. Khan will make the most of himself because that's the kind of person he is.

Good well rounded post X man

[sanchez786]

For some reason I can't quote your posts ICB

Anyhow, although you listed many fighters from many different backgrounds, none are hated as much as those from Middle-East/South Asian decent ESPECIALLY in England.

Again, I just found it odd that you happen to mention both Hamed and Khan in the same token and they both just happen to be of either Middle-East/South Asian and Muslim.

If I offended you, I apologize. Again, I've just taken note of the common occurence of boxing fans (not only on this forum but other forums as well) supposedly 'hating' on Amir Khan for his fine china chin and his big talk(which again, he's quite a polite young kid), his competition(MAB...nuff said) when I honestly feel the underlying issue towards his hatred is his SPECIFIC ethnicity(Pakistan)/religion(Islam) background yet people use other reasons to justify there hate and disguise their own prejudice.

Anyhow, I'm not making any accusations to anyone specific so if you thought I have, again I apologize.

Peace!

[KananKrus]

Let's see what Trainer Freddie Roach has to say about the Khan vs MAB matchup. Last time up, when there was a mass of doubting Thomas' on him... well we all know what happened.


ROACH SAYS AMIR KHAN HAS A GOOD CHANCE AGAINST BARRERA

By Ronnie Nathanielsz
PhilBoxing.com
Sat, 17 Jan 2009
Trainer Freddie Roach believes that 22 year old British lightweight Amir Khan (19-1, 15 KO’s) has “a very good chance” of beating Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera (64-6, 43 KO’s) in their March 14 clash either at Manchester’s MEN Arena or London’s O2 venue. Speaking to Inside Sports|, Standard Today and Viva Sports from his Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles, Roach said Khan would be in LA on Saturday to begin training for the fight which will be the biggest test of his young career.

Roach said he accepted the Barrera fight because “it’s a good fight for him (Khan.) I don’t think Barrera is big enough for him at 135 pounds.”

He said Filipino boxing icon Manny Pacquiao who sparred with Khan a few times while preparing for the fight against Oscar De La Hoya “helped his confidence tremendously” and that Khan demonstrated then that he was “faster and sharper” than the ageing Barrera who turns 35 today.

Roach categorized the Barrera bout as “a very good fight for a young, fast kid.”

Roach’s assessment is in contrast with those in Britain itself who believe that Khan is risking his career by taking on the seven-time world champion who turns 35 on Saturday.

After his training stint under Roach, the Olympic silver medalist returned to the ring and battered Oising Fagan to score a 2nd round TKO last December 6 to regain his confidence following a stunning 1st round KO at the hands of Breidis Prescott on September 6.

Promoter Frank Warren who put together the Khan-Barrera fight deal conceded in an interview with Sporting Life that “Manny has been an inspiration for Amir. Manny was stopped twice earlier in his career and now he’s pound-for-pound the best in the world.”
Warren emphasized it showed how you “can come back from adversity. Amir has the mindset of a winner and he will be a winner.” The top flight British promoter said Khan won an Olympic silver medal at 17 and six months later beat the world’s best amateur Mario Kindelan of Cuba. [/font]

Warren described Amir as “a quality fighter” and indicated that his beating Fagan “was good for him” even as he said he was impressed by Khan’s focus in the fight. He said “good comes out of bad and that’s the way to look at the Prescott defeat.”

After his smashing win over Fagan who was dropped twice in the opening round Khan said that “a lot of things I worked on in the (Wild Card) gym came off tonight. I had a hard training camp with Roach in the States and we worked a lot on my jab and being more patient and I think that showed against Fagan.”

He said Roach had worked on his jab and his defense “but there were other things that came off as well.” Khan said he “I usually don’t throw many right hands but it was a right hand that I scored the first knockdown with.”

Jesse Arevalo who stood in for Roach in the Fagan fight gave Khan “almost a 10” for his performance.” He said they all thought the fight “would go a lot longer, but Amir did a good job.

Pat Sheehan of the British newspaper The Sun says that Khan is a big fan of the Mexican who ended Naseem Hamed’s super-featherweight career eight years ago.

Khan said: “I have youth behind me as well as the speed. I haven’t used my technique and my brain yet because I haven’t had a fight where I’ve had to ... this will be different.”

Promoter Warren said: “It will bring out the best in Amir — talking about Barrera put the twinkle in his eye so we’ve delivered it.”

[JT Rock]

Let's see what Trainer Freddie Roach has to say about the Khan vs MAB matchup. Last time up, when there was a mass of doubting Thomas' on him... well we all know what happened.


ROACH SAYS AMIR KHAN HAS A GOOD CHANCE AGAINST BARRERA

By Ronnie Nathanielsz
PhilBoxing.com
Sat, 17 Jan 2009
Trainer Freddie Roach believes that 22 year old British lightweight Amir Khan (19-1, 15 KO’s) has “a very good chance” of beating Mexican legend Marco Antonio Barrera (64-6, 43 KO’s) in their March 14 clash either at Manchester’s MEN Arena or London’s O2 venue. Speaking to Inside Sports|, Standard Today and Viva Sports from his Wild Card Gym in Los Angeles, Roach said Khan would be in LA on Saturday to begin training for the fight which will be the biggest test of his young career.

Roach said he accepted the Barrera fight because “it’s a good fight for him (Khan.) I don’t think Barrera is big enough for him at 135 pounds.”

He said Filipino boxing icon Manny Pacquiao who sparred with Khan a few times while preparing for the fight against Oscar De La Hoya “helped his confidence tremendously” and that Khan demonstrated then that he was “faster and sharper” than the ageing Barrera who turns 35 today.

Roach categorized the Barrera bout as “a very good fight for a young, fast kid.”

Roach’s assessment is in contrast with those in Britain itself who believe that Khan is risking his career by taking on the seven-time world champion who turns 35 on Saturday.

After his training stint under Roach, the Olympic silver medalist returned to the ring and battered Oising Fagan to score a 2nd round TKO last December 6 to regain his confidence following a stunning 1st round KO at the hands of Breidis Prescott on September 6.

Promoter Frank Warren who put together the Khan-Barrera fight deal conceded in an interview with Sporting Life that “Manny has been an inspiration for Amir. Manny was stopped twice earlier in his career and now he’s pound-for-pound the best in the world.”
Warren emphasized it showed how you “can come back from adversity. Amir has the mindset of a winner and he will be a winner.” The top flight British promoter said Khan won an Olympic silver medal at 17 and six months later beat the world’s best amateur Mario Kindelan of Cuba. [/font]

Warren described Amir as “a quality fighter” and indicated that his beating Fagan “was good for him” even as he said he was impressed by Khan’s focus in the fight. He said “good comes out of bad and that’s the way to look at the Prescott defeat.”

After his smashing win over Fagan who was dropped twice in the opening round Khan said that “a lot of things I worked on in the (Wild Card) gym came off tonight. I had a hard training camp with Roach in the States and we worked a lot on my jab and being more patient and I think that showed against Fagan.”

He said Roach had worked on his jab and his defense “but there were other things that came off as well.” Khan said he “I usually don’t throw many right hands but it was a right hand that I scored the first knockdown with.”

Jesse Arevalo who stood in for Roach in the Fagan fight gave Khan “almost a 10” for his performance.” He said they all thought the fight “would go a lot longer, but Amir did a good job.

Pat Sheehan of the British newspaper The Sun says that Khan is a big fan of the Mexican who ended Naseem Hamed’s super-featherweight career eight years ago.

Khan said: “I have youth behind me as well as the speed. I haven’t used my technique and my brain yet because I haven’t had a fight where I’ve had to ... this will be different.”

Promoter Warren said: “It will bring out the best in Amir — talking about Barrera put the twinkle in his eye so we’ve delivered it.”

I cant make heads or tails out of that shit

Nevermind you decoded it

[andykopgod]

Right roubd the corner from me can't wait for this fight. I think Amir wins this one.

[W1NKY]

its at the MEN arena and the tickets go on sale 21st of jan and ime goin and i want barrera to smash khan ime sick of khan fighting old suoer featherweights y cant he fight a lightweight anyway ime goin 2 this fight deffo and ime wearin my barrera t shirt and a mexican hat.

[Tysonbruno]

when i first saw the heading that khan was to face barrera on the bbc website i thought maybe sparring or something, but i was shoked to say the least this is what us fans want! barrera is a legend & i see him beating khan but if that happens so what, khan will of faced one of the greats & push on for more mega fights!

really hope its at the MEN arena

Well you got your wish its at the MEN arena

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Barrera is done and for the taking.. He is shopworn and cant compete at A level anymore... Unless he sparks Kahn out early, he will be repeatedly beat to the punch by a much faster strong young man with plenty of vigor..

You're suggesting Khan is A level?
Holy shat.

[ICB]

Barrera is done and for the taking.. He is shopworn and cant compete at A level anymore... Unless he sparks Kahn out early, he will be repeatedly beat to the punch by a much faster strong young man with plenty of vigor..

You're suggesting Khan is A level?
Holy shat.

This is the same Amir Khan that was doubled over from one body shot, from a smaller/shot Michael Gomez. And remind me Missy what is MAB's favorite punch

[JT Rock]

Barrera is done and for the taking.. He is shopworn and cant compete at A level anymore... Unless he sparks Kahn out early, he will be repeatedly beat to the punch by a much faster strong young man with plenty of vigor..

You're suggesting Khan is A level?
Holy shat.

This is the same Amir Khan that was doubled over from one body shot, from a smaller/shot Michael Gomez. And remind me Missy what is MAB's favorite punch

Classic case of romance for an old war horse..

So what your saying is that MAB wont be beat to the punch consistently by a faster, stronger, younger fighter with excellent athleticism who will outwork Barrera?


Missy I'm saying Barrera is probably C+ at this point of his career

[Master]

The fact that Barrera had retired is a also a factor too. He will have let his body go by boxers standard and more importantly once a fighter thinks about retiring, emotionally he is beat by a young fresh faster and hungrier fighter.