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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!
    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    Dude. Taylor can definitely hurt Miranda. Miranda has no chin worth mentioning. Taylor has great power, and a solid jab. He will be world champ again. But I think he would beat all of the guys you mentioned with relative ease, except for Kessler, who would give him a good run and may edge a decision out of him.
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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
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    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!
    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    Dude. Taylor can definitely hurt Miranda. Miranda has no chin worth mentioning. Taylor has great power, and a solid jab. He will be world champ again. But I think he would beat all of the guys you mentioned with relative ease, except for Kessler, who would give him a good run and may edge a decision out of him.
    I take that partially back. Miranda doesn't have a great chin.

    Miranda has been knocked out by strong guys with big punches: Pavlik and Abraham. Who else put him on the floor? Allen Green did, but Miranda got up and went on to win the fight.

    Does Jermain have great power? The last time he knocked out anyone was in 2005. He hasn't knocked out a name opponent ever. Please explain.

    I am a huge Jermain fan. Don't get me wrong. In my books, he beats Froch easily and he probably beats Bute in a tough fight. But, he wins because he is fast and can box, not because he has power.

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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post

    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    Dude. Taylor can definitely hurt Miranda. Miranda has no chin worth mentioning. Taylor has great power, and a solid jab. He will be world champ again. But I think he would beat all of the guys you mentioned with relative ease, except for Kessler, who would give him a good run and may edge a decision out of him.
    I take that partially back. Miranda doesn't have a great chin.

    Miranda has been knocked out by strong guys with big punches: Pavlik and Abraham. Who else put him on the floor? Allen Green did, but Miranda got up and went on to win the fight.

    Does Jermain have great power? The last time he knocked out anyone was in 2005. He hasn't knocked out a name opponent ever. Please explain.

    I am a huge Jermain fan. Don't get me wrong. In my books, he beats Froch easily and he probably beats Bute in a tough fight. But, he wins because he is fast and can box, not because he has power.
    I think he has decent power. Don't get me wrong he's no Julian Jackson but he can punch.

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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Miranda has guts, and I hope he wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    I totally agree. Taylor's jab is such a great tool. Follow that up with his right hand behind it Taylor should have this fight. I think Jermain knows what happens when you stand in front of a bomber, at least I think he does now...

    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    we've heard this before.. before Kelly beat the piss out of Miranda and Kelly got to fight him instead.

    If Taylor fights like he did in Taylor/Pavlik II then Miranda has a very slight chance in winning..

    Jermain's defense was great, and he was at the top of his game, i think.. Taylor's chin is pretty decent.. he took a lot of solid punches from Kelly before he was KO'd..
    I think the shots that Pavlik landed on Taylor in the first fight would've knocked out just about anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Miranda has guts, and I hope he wins.
    I used to think Miranda was a bit of a trash talker but after his fight with Abraham he seemed to be humbled. Oddly enough, that loss and his reaction got me to like him. Miranda def wants the biggest fights he can get, gotta respect him for that...

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    Taylor needs big fights. Miranda while better than Carl Fraud is still a step backwards. I gave Taylor a pass when he fought Lacy cuz it was his fight at 168. But that's it. I want top see him fight Bute or Kessler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Taylor needs big fights. Miranda while better than Carl Fraud is still a step backwards. I gave Taylor a pass when he fought Lacy cuz it was his fight at 168. But that's it. I want top see him fight Bute or Kessler.
    I would like to see Kessler fighting anyone worth fighting. Last I heard he was fighting another no name countryman next. I was beginning to like him a while back but now he's starting to piss me off...

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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Miranda should want to learn how to box first. Ko'ing chumps on espn is great and all and i like edison but damn till he learns how to box these top guys will continue to beat his ass he'll ko someone on espn and the cycle will repeat...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Taylor needs big fights. Miranda while better than Carl Fraud is still a step backwards. I gave Taylor a pass when he fought Lacy cuz it was his fight at 168. But that's it. I want top see him fight Bute or Kessler.
    I want to see that as well, but you can't make those guys fight him. Bute has shown little inclination to getting in the ring with the top tier 168lbers, and Kessler, I believe, is fighting Mads Larsen, which apparently is a huge fight in Denmark, in order to get out of the Paille contract (because he wants the big fights, but Paille is content to play Warren Jr., keeping Kessler in low-risk fights and raking in the money domestically).

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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post

    Dude. Taylor can definitely hurt Miranda. Miranda has no chin worth mentioning. Taylor has great power, and a solid jab. He will be world champ again. But I think he would beat all of the guys you mentioned with relative ease, except for Kessler, who would give him a good run and may edge a decision out of him.
    I take that partially back. Miranda doesn't have a great chin.

    Miranda has been knocked out by strong guys with big punches: Pavlik and Abraham. Who else put him on the floor? Allen Green did, but Miranda got up and went on to win the fight.

    Does Jermain have great power? The last time he knocked out anyone was in 2005. He hasn't knocked out a name opponent ever. Please explain.

    I am a huge Jermain fan. Don't get me wrong. In my books, he beats Froch easily and he probably beats Bute in a tough fight. But, he wins because he is fast and can box, not because he has power.
    I think he has decent power. Don't get me wrong he's no Julian Jackson but he can punch.

    He couldn't knock OUma out.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
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    I take that partially back. Miranda doesn't have a great chin.

    Miranda has been knocked out by strong guys with big punches: Pavlik and Abraham. Who else put him on the floor? Allen Green did, but Miranda got up and went on to win the fight.

    Does Jermain have great power? The last time he knocked out anyone was in 2005. He hasn't knocked out a name opponent ever. Please explain.

    I am a huge Jermain fan. Don't get me wrong. In my books, he beats Froch easily and he probably beats Bute in a tough fight. But, he wins because he is fast and can box, not because he has power.
    I think he has decent power. Don't get me wrong he's no Julian Jackson but he can punch.

    He couldn't knock OUma out.
    Not an easy thing to do considering Ouma has only been stopped once. And that was like 10 years ago

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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post

    I think he has decent power. Don't get me wrong he's no Julian Jackson but he can punch.

    He couldn't knock OUma out.
    Not an easy thing to do considering Ouma has only been stopped once. And that was like 10 years ago
    He couldn't knock SPinks out either. Not that he hit him once.
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    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
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    He couldn't knock OUma out.
    Not an easy thing to do considering Ouma has only been stopped once. And that was like 10 years ago
    He couldn't knock SPinks out either. Not that he hit him once.
    Spinks is even harder than Ouma to knock out.

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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by boozeboxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post

    I think he has decent power. Don't get me wrong he's no Julian Jackson but he can punch.

    He couldn't knock OUma out.
    Not an easy thing to do considering Ouma has only been stopped once. And that was like 10 years ago

    Yeah I'm bad. I thought that OUma got stopped on telefutura or something not to long ago. I dont know who the hell I was thinking of

    ALl I have to say is that I think Taylor's power was really overrated for quite awhile.
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