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    Default Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    Miranda says he wants Taylor. I say Edison gets his ass kicked though. What do you guys think?

    Miranda wants Taylor NOW! | Fightnews

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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    Well if it weren't for that great chin of Kelly's Jermain would have won. Miranda doesn't have Kelly's chin or heart. Taylor smashes him on his way to his first KO in years.
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    Default Re: Miranda: "I want Taylor"

    we've heard this before.. before Kelly beat the piss out of Miranda and Kelly got to fight him instead.

    If Taylor fights like he did in Taylor/Pavlik II then Miranda has a very slight chance in winning..

    Jermain's defense was great, and he was at the top of his game, i think.. Taylor's chin is pretty decent.. he took a lot of solid punches from Kelly before he was KO'd..

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!
    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    Last edited by Rantcatrat; 01-21-2009 at 05:10 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!
    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    Dude. Taylor can definitely hurt Miranda. Miranda has no chin worth mentioning. Taylor has great power, and a solid jab. He will be world champ again. But I think he would beat all of the guys you mentioned with relative ease, except for Kessler, who would give him a good run and may edge a decision out of him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!
    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    I know my logic in saying I think Talyor is better seems off. It's hard to expalin what I mean but here goes!

    Taylor in the first fight was winning early on and was on verge of KOing Kelly until he gassed. He then went on to get hurt and stopped off Kelly and that was detrimental to Taylor's mindset when it came to fighting Kelly.

    But for me if you were to pit them both against some of the great middleweight champs from history Taylor would have a better time. Just look at their fights with B-Hop, Taylor beat him twice and Pavlik got schooled!

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    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post

    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!
    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    I know my logic in saying I think Talyor is better seems off. It's hard to expalin what I mean but here goes!

    Taylor in the first fight was winning early on and was on verge of KOing Kelly until he gassed. He then went on to get hurt and stopped off Kelly and that was detrimental to Taylor's mindset when it came to fighting Kelly.

    But for me if you were to pit them both against some of the great middleweight champs from history Taylor would have a better time. Just look at their fights with B-Hop, Taylor beat him twice and Pavlik got schooled!
    agreed..

    Taylor had the power to wobble Kelly, and he really wobbled him with one punch to the top of Kelly's head.. Kelly took some straight shots from Miranda and stayed pretty much stable throughout the whole fight.. This shows Taylor does have power, and we've seen it in the past. Look at Winky's face after the Taylor fight..

    Taylor gassed in the Pavlik fight, but he looked good in the first 4-5 rounds, besides getting hit with a few bombs.. He realized this and worked on his defense HEAVILY in preparing for the second fight.. It was the fact that the pace of the fight was intense that he gassed towards the end and couldn't win the last few rounds to take the victory..

    Kessler would be Taylor's hardest opponent out of those guys.. Two guys with great jabs and big right hands.. except Kesslers right hand is much more straight and he would probably connect when Taylor opened up to throw.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by rjj tszyu View Post

    I agree it would be a great fight. I think that Taylor Vs Pavlik I was one of the best fights I've seen at middleweight for quite some time and to be totally honest I actually think Taylor is the better of the two it was just he got caught off one of the hardest punchers p4p in the world and then in the second fight was too frightened to take a risk!
    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    Dude. Taylor can definitely hurt Miranda. Miranda has no chin worth mentioning. Taylor has great power, and a solid jab. He will be world champ again. But I think he would beat all of the guys you mentioned with relative ease, except for Kessler, who would give him a good run and may edge a decision out of him.
    I take that partially back. Miranda doesn't have a great chin.

    Miranda has been knocked out by strong guys with big punches: Pavlik and Abraham. Who else put him on the floor? Allen Green did, but Miranda got up and went on to win the fight.

    Does Jermain have great power? The last time he knocked out anyone was in 2005. He hasn't knocked out a name opponent ever. Please explain.

    I am a huge Jermain fan. Don't get me wrong. In my books, he beats Froch easily and he probably beats Bute in a tough fight. But, he wins because he is fast and can box, not because he has power.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by JonnyFolds View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Rantcatrat View Post

    Miranda would be a live underdog in a fight with Taylor. It is doubtful Taylor can hurt Miranda. In addition, Taylor has a tendancy to keep his arms low, and against Miranda that may be his undoing. Two fighters have beat Miranda: Abraham, who has solid defense, and Pavlik who has average defense but compensates with tremendous power.

    And Taylor is better than Pavlik? What is a better way to show you are better than an opponent than by beating him twice? Explain.

    Is it me or is everyone and their mom's gunning for a fight with Taylor? Bhop. Green. Miranda. Froch. Kessler.
    Dude. Taylor can definitely hurt Miranda. Miranda has no chin worth mentioning. Taylor has great power, and a solid jab. He will be world champ again. But I think he would beat all of the guys you mentioned with relative ease, except for Kessler, who would give him a good run and may edge a decision out of him.
    I take that partially back. Miranda doesn't have a great chin.

    Miranda has been knocked out by strong guys with big punches: Pavlik and Abraham. Who else put him on the floor? Allen Green did, but Miranda got up and went on to win the fight.

    Does Jermain have great power? The last time he knocked out anyone was in 2005. He hasn't knocked out a name opponent ever. Please explain.

    I am a huge Jermain fan. Don't get me wrong. In my books, he beats Froch easily and he probably beats Bute in a tough fight. But, he wins because he is fast and can box, not because he has power.
    I think he has decent power. Don't get me wrong he's no Julian Jackson but he can punch.

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    Miranda has guts, and I hope he wins.
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    Quote Originally Posted by The Fightfan View Post
    I think this would be a great fight. I think it is Taylor's fight unless he get's stupid and tries to brawl with Miranda. Like he did against Kelly in their first fight.
    I totally agree. Taylor's jab is such a great tool. Follow that up with his right hand behind it Taylor should have this fight. I think Jermain knows what happens when you stand in front of a bomber, at least I think he does now...

    Quote Originally Posted by RP33 View Post
    we've heard this before.. before Kelly beat the piss out of Miranda and Kelly got to fight him instead.

    If Taylor fights like he did in Taylor/Pavlik II then Miranda has a very slight chance in winning..

    Jermain's defense was great, and he was at the top of his game, i think.. Taylor's chin is pretty decent.. he took a lot of solid punches from Kelly before he was KO'd..
    I think the shots that Pavlik landed on Taylor in the first fight would've knocked out just about anyone.

    Quote Originally Posted by Master View Post
    Miranda has guts, and I hope he wins.
    I used to think Miranda was a bit of a trash talker but after his fight with Abraham he seemed to be humbled. Oddly enough, that loss and his reaction got me to like him. Miranda def wants the biggest fights he can get, gotta respect him for that...

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    Taylor needs big fights. Miranda while better than Carl Fraud is still a step backwards. I gave Taylor a pass when he fought Lacy cuz it was his fight at 168. But that's it. I want top see him fight Bute or Kessler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Violent Demise View Post
    Taylor needs big fights. Miranda while better than Carl Fraud is still a step backwards. I gave Taylor a pass when he fought Lacy cuz it was his fight at 168. But that's it. I want top see him fight Bute or Kessler.
    I would like to see Kessler fighting anyone worth fighting. Last I heard he was fighting another no name countryman next. I was beginning to like him a while back but now he's starting to piss me off...

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