Training in the UK. Your Thoughts.

[Sharla]

Yeah i think it's definately worldwide. Not sure about Mexico or Cuba but Australia is crap and Japan varies but judging by the standard and how far they push fighters to loose weight also bad.

I had a coach from Russia who still competes who was against us drinking water at all during training. In the Australian heat that's just crazy!

Boxing doesn't seem to take up knowledge the way other sports do and i don't understand why.

[Scrap]

Heres one,awell known American Coach was preparing a Fighter, He was putting Vaseline on the Fighters face in the Dressing room. The Kid started screaming saying He was Blind, the coach shit Himself and didnt know what to do. This was 15 minutes before a Title Fight, I asked what was in the mix with the Vasaline He said Newskin. I was gobsmacked I said do you want me to Help, do anything He said, Im thinking this guys going to have a Heartattack the remedy. I got a bottle of Adrenalin 1/1000 and poured it into the eyes,whys that He asked. Its the best eyewash there is was my reply He said youre one cool motherfucker. The kid went out and won the Title no thanks to Him

[Chris Nagel]

I had a coach from Russia who still competes who was against us drinking water at all during training. In the Australian heat that's just crazy!

That's what Kostya believed. I can't quite remember the science behind it, it relates the liver functions and, it's definitely not the smartest way to go.

[Scrap]

Its crazy, it stops everything from working and damages the reproduction organs, we are 60% water, its needed everywhere.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

What concerns me as our knowledge grows why isn't it being passed on? Is it tradition? Do people think it ain't broke (disagree) then don't mess?

Problem is if you go to your local gym and they start off with a run and you turn round and say it's pitting you against your trainer from the beginning. Has anyone tried this?

I've got a reasonable excuse I get bad achilles tendonitis Actually it affects me running, skipping and erm my boxing stance but apart from that I'm fine

Do trainers encourage their fighters to watch fights and look for faults - there's always a reason you got hit - do they encourage fighters to look a certain fighters and see what they're good at, why they are successful? Y'all know I'm a Barrera fan and I taught myself to hook off the jab by studying him. I broke it down slow, worked it in the air, worked it on the bag then made an effort to look for that move in sparring. Surely someone should have taught me that?

I'll chuck in something I found useful back in the day. This makes me think old school training and I've seen the 'wood-chop' being used as a functiontal move in some exercise dvd's.

It came from doing kali but the instructor also recommended it for body mechanics. Get yourself a long handled pickaxe, get in stance, hold it in your rear hand and do a one handed wood chop (or two) make sure you are pivoting with it. Chances are because of the weighted tip you will pivot/twist with it. Draw it back repeat etc.

No trees were harmed during this.

Speed drill. The sooner your hand comes back the sooner it can fire again. Eg. 10 regular fast jabs
now extend your arm from the jab. Retract the jab as fast as you can. Place it out / whip it back. x10

shake it out.

Now try to make both the punch and retraction as fast as each other.

If only I was a coach

[Scrap]

I think its egos, that causes the problem, in this game anything new is Bollocks, the reason being They dont understand it. So they dont have to explain it, funny talking to a well known Promoter who I hadnt seen for some years. He asked if I was still doing all those crazy ideas I use to do, I said yes, He said its funny How everybody else is doing them now and yet in the70s and 80s they thought it was Bollocks .

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Does it feel good to be right?

[Scrap]

To be Honest Missy it makes you feel Lonely

[Sharla]

Could be worse... could be football coaches!

I think its egos, that causes the problem, in this game anything new is Bollocks, the reason being They dont understand it. So they dont have to explain it, funny talking to a well known Promoter who I hadnt seen for some years. He asked if I was still doing all those crazy ideas I use to do, I said yes, He said its funny How everybody else is doing them now and yet in the70s and 80s they thought it was Bollocks .

Now i realize i'm treading on dangerous ground here but do you think perhaps it is because boxing at the coaching and high level is a male dominated sport? Full of alpha male types?

I know there are a few good guys around who would not contribute to the problem but the fact they know their stuff intimidates other alpha males who want to be top dog?

Makes me think of boxing SA and how any HUGE shout down arguments people have over stupid, stupid stuff and it really is like a power struggle to be alpha male. People don't and can't really negotiate on a level playing field. Admiting someone who want or believes or does something different could be right is reliquishing too much power.

Similarly in an all female environment you'll often get women with queen bee syndrome who want to prevent others from improving and a lot of bitchyness and gossip. I definately don't think all female environments are any better but they are different.

Perhaps the ideal situation is more mixed but you also need people with real experience - preferably more bouts than the people they coach in my opinion and right now that's very difficult for most women to accrue due to a lack of matches etc etc.

The worst coach i ever had (for about 2 weeks) was a female who just couldn't help making snide bitchy remarks every two seconds. I can't really say I'd want to have a female coach but i think taking on a say nutrition tip from a non threating female might be more likely to happen than for one alpha male to listen to another sometimes?

[Scrap]

Sharla you make some very goods points there.