~ SSM vs. Margartio ~ Let's talk here!

[Rantcatrat]

I didn't realize until yesterday that this is not PPV. It just goes to show you that even though Margarito is the lineal champ in the deepest division in boxing facing a first ballot hall-of-famer that still no one knows him. Hell, let me stop- this isn't a trash Margo thread. I want Mosley to win, but as a guy who has never KO'd an elite fighter in this class I doubt he's about to do it against the guy with the best or second best chin in the division. Mosley will crack him often enough until 7 or 8 when it becomes obvious that Margarito isn't going anywhere and Shane has to ride a bike to even sniff the finish line. I wouldn't be surprised if Tony scored a knockdown due to Shane exhaustion, but there won't be a 10 count. There COULD be a KO, but Shane will be in an upright position when he speaks to Harold Lederman.

Maybe you should stop because the fight at Staples Center is sold out. 18,157 tickets sold!
A Hot Ticket
Welterweights Margarito, Mosely draw packed house to Staples Center | LA Wave Newspaper | Sports

Then ask yourself this: if it had been Mayweather v. Mosley, Pacquiao v. Mosley or Hatton v. Mosley, would this be on PPV?

Mosley has never been a huge draw. That said, Margarito doesn't have the earning potential of Hatton, PBF or Paquiao. But, he has more earning potential than a lot of fighters out there - more than most welterweights. Also, it is safe to say that among Latin Americans in the greater Los Angeles area, Margarito has a strong and growing fanbase.

Moreover, it is impressive that in such depressing economic times, a Margarito fight sold out the Staples Center. Am I wrong to say that? Boxing definitely ain't dead...

[killersheep]

Thought I'd through this in the mix Compubox statistical analysis

HBO: Boxing: WCB: Margarito vs. Mosley: RUNNING THE NUMBERS WITH COMPUBOX

"Out of respect for Mosley's proven durability, the prediction will be a comfortable unanimous decision for Margarito but if anyone has the tools to inflict the first stoppage loss on Mosley it is the "Tijuana Tornado." "

- Compubox 2009 Bob Canobbio

[SSEVO]

does anybody know exactly what time the 2 fighters walk in?

[paddy448]

does anybody know exactly what time the 2 fighters walk in?

bout 4.40 english time mate

[killersheep]

HBO.com: Video Player: Margarito vs. Mosley: Fight Week

Weigh in coverage.

Jerry Belmontes 128.5 vs. Jesus Hernandez 127.5 both overweight.

Brian Ramirez 130.5 underweight vs. Luis Tapia 135 Overweight? Announced as a 134 fight must be some kind of catchweight. Tapia has one hour to lose one pound or forfeit, Tapia is going to pay a fine to still go on with the fight.

Shane Mosley 147.0 vs. Antonio Margarito 145.8

Sugar Shane comes in at 147.2 and needs to be weighed again, they are saying there were too many people on stage.
Margarito says that he trained hard to make sure he is at weight well before the weighin and that Mosley's weight is his problem.
He said that he understands Mosley has a lot of experience and that's why he's trained hard.
The official watching the scale says that, for the title to be on the line for Sugar he needs to lose 0.2 pounds within the next hour.
Ok Sugar steps back on the scale and makes 147. WBA title is officially on the line.
Shane says he's ready to go, he says all he wants is the fans respect and concedes Margarito is a great champ.

[RozzySean]

That's not a good sign for Shane.

I took flier on Shane by SD in the prediction contest. It's just hard for me to bet against him. Everytime I think he's done, he puts on a great performance.

I think there is a chance that Shane's faster hands, toughness, and experience could let him steal this one. A very small chance. If Tony comes in and gives away a few rounds early, which he often does, he's going to give Shane a chance to be in the fight. Shane has never been stopped and he is known for his chin. Cotto beat Shane essentially by turning boxer and using his better jab in the last few rounds to control the fight. Shane isn't going to outbox Margo, but he still has faster hands than Cotto and he probably hits just as hard, if not harder. Also, Mosley doesn't lean forward as far as Cotto, and this body position make him vulnerable to Tony's best punches - his uppercuts. Shane is more upright and he's less likely to eat those punches. Cotto was actually a very good matchup for Tony. Shane, on the other hand, has only lost to fighters with very good jabs - Winky, Forrest, and Cotto.

I actually thought that Mayorga deserved a lot of credit in the Mosley fight. He fought as well as I've seen him fight in a very long time and for a change, he was properly conditioned for the bout, but once Shane figured him out and realized he could take his punches, he took over the fight.

Unfortunately for Shane, he can't spend the first few rounds trying to figure out Tony and decide if he can be hurt by him. He's going to need come out guns blazing and risk getting hurt early. If he starts slow and lets Tony get into his rhythm, it's a wrap.

[mrbig1]

With all the shit fights that has been on PPV I can't believe this one is on HBO.

[Spicoli]

That's not a good sign for Shane.

I took flier on Shane by SD in the prediction contest. It's just hard for me to bet against him. Everytime I think he's done, he puts on a great performance.

I think there is a chance that Shane's faster hands, toughness, and experience could let him steal this one. A very small chance. If Tony comes in and gives away a few rounds early, which he often does, he's going to give Shane a chance to be in the fight. Shane has never been stopped and he is known for his chin. Cotto beat Shane essentially by turning boxer and using his better jab in the last few rounds to control the fight. Shane isn't going to outbox Margo, but he still has faster hands than Cotto and he probably hits just as hard, if not harder. Also, Mosley doesn't lean forward as far as Cotto, and this body position make him vulnerable to Tony's best punches - his uppercuts. Shane is more upright and he's less likely to eat those punches. Cotto was actually a very good matchup for Tony. Shane, on the other hand, has only lost to fighters with very good jabs - Winky, Forrest, and Cotto.

I actually thought that Mayorga deserved a lot of credit in the Mosley fight. He fought as well as I've seen him fight in a very long time and for a change, he was properly conditioned for the bout, but once Shane figured him out and realized he could take his punches, he took over the fight.

Unfortunately for Shane, he can't spend the first few rounds trying to figure out Tony and decide if he can be hurt by him. He's going to need come out guns blazing and risk getting hurt early. If he starts slow and lets Tony get into his rhythm, it's a wrap.

Good post.Agreed ecspecially on Mosley needing to come out early and strong.Going against all logic myself....I think He needs to jump on Tony,this fight is as much mental as physical and he needs to get into Margaritos frame of mind from the very start.I think Margarito will have some big effect on Mosley to the body but he really can not over due those long shots from the outside....uppercuts mainly,keep it close and tight,weary of Mosley clinching.Shane is not what he was,but he can still capitalize with a fast hard rights/left hook to inviting targets.I like Tony very late or by w.12

[SSEVO]

does anybody know exactly what time the 2 fighters walk in?

bout 4.40 english time mate

?? what is that in US eastern time? 10:40pm?? cuz it starts at 10pm and i heard there will be no undercards showing on HBO.

can someone confirm this? in US time?

[JT Rock]

does anybody know exactly what time the 2 fighters walk in?

bout 4.40 english time mate

?? what is that in US time? 10:40pm?? cuz HBO starts at 10pm and i heard there will be no undercards showing on HBO.

can someone confirm this? in US time?

10pm eastern time 7pm pacific

[leftylee]

I think Margo wins on points. Too relentless for Shane.

[Diane]

I would like to see Mosley win, but I don't think he will.

Mosley has too many outside issues going on, with HBO saying that they are going to be bringing up the steriod issue, and his marriage is extremely bad right now from what I've read. Jin won't even be at the fight. So I don't know what kind of mental state Mosley is in right now.

Mosley may come in with the perfect game plan, but I'm not sure how mentally focused he will be to carry it out.

So I'm going with Margarito by late stoppage.