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    I just watched Pacquiao-De La Hoya and Mayweather-De La Hoya this morning, he looked pretty much the same, but Pacquiao kept moving, and while Floyd was able to land his jab almost at will, Pacquiao was able to land the much harder left cross at all. There is no version of De La Hoya that would have been able to deal wtih what Pacquiao brought. He didn't look bad at all against Forbes, he looked good against Mayorga and Mayweather. Pacquiao had the right style, the right skills, and the right physical abilities to knock Oscar out IMO at any point in his career.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    He didn't look bad at all against Forbes, he looked good against Mayorga and Mayweather. Pacquiao had the right style, the right skills, and the right physical abilities to knock Oscar out IMO at any point in his career.

    Gotta disagree there

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    Oscar in his prime days was more of a mover. As he got older he started moving his head less and started blocking punches with his forearms. Watch his fight with Gatti and then watch him vs. Forbes. He is much more stiff now and he is clearly not the same as he was. Prime Oscar would have troubled Manny with his quickness on his feet and movement. Prime for prime its a tough call.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Boom Boom View Post
    Oscar in his prime days was more of a mover. As he got older he started moving his head less and started blocking punches with his forearms. Watch his fight with Gatti and then watch him vs. Forbes. He is much more stiff now and he is clearly not the same as he was. Prime Oscar would have troubled Manny with his quickness on his feet and movement. Prime for prime its a tough call.
    i dont think oscar is a mover in his prime days. he was more of a bouncer. he bounces on his toes a lot but he is not a laterall mover. but then he always had stamina problems which made him stop bouncing. if you watch the quartey odlh fight. the only times he caugh bazooka was when he is on his toes. but for the most part of that fight bazooka had him on the defensive coz he always ran out of steam. too bad ike didnt capitalize and finish him.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beanflicker View Post
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    He didn't look bad at all against Forbes, he looked good against Mayorga and Mayweather. Pacquiao had the right style, the right skills, and the right physical abilities to knock Oscar out IMO at any point in his career.

    Gotta disagree there

    care to elaborate? we wanna know what you think./
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    Quote Originally Posted by josef4334 View Post
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    He didn't look bad at all against Forbes, he looked good against Mayorga and Mayweather. Pacquiao had the right style, the right skills, and the right physical abilities to knock Oscar out IMO at any point in his career.

    Gotta disagree there

    care to elaborate? we wanna know what you think./
    Watch ANY fight of Oscar in his prime. A few examples: Oscar vs Trinidad, Oscar vs Quartey, Oscar vs Gonzalez, Oscar vs Hopkins (eventhough he lost, he still looked sharp), Oscar vs Chavez, etc.. Look at the speed of his combinations, his piercing jab, that left hook, the vicious body punches, those uppercuts, etc.

    Yes, Pac did have the right tools...against an old passed-his-prime ODLH. Something that he and his team even mentioned during interviews.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Taeth View Post
    I just watched Pacquiao-De La Hoya and Mayweather-De La Hoya this morning, he looked pretty much the same, but Pacquiao kept moving, and while Floyd was able to land his jab almost at will, Pacquiao was able to land the much harder left cross at all. There is no version of De La Hoya that would have been able to deal wtih what Pacquiao brought. He didn't look bad at all against Forbes, he looked good against Mayorga and Mayweather. Pacquiao had the right style, the right skills, and the right physical abilities to knock Oscar out IMO at any point in his career.
    ODLH lacked any sort of explosiveness or work rate... he circled basically one way around the ring the whole entire fight. Legs seemed to have failed him... he didn't use them at all.

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