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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    His invincibility cloak has now gone, plus he's been concentrating even less on defense last couple of years relying on his chin. Now that it has failed him It's going to be a huge uphill struggle to get back to where he was.

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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    Quote Originally Posted by Bomp View Post
    His invincibility cloak has now gone, plus he's been concentrating even less on defense last couple of years relying on his chin. Now that it has failed him It's going to be a huge uphill struggle to get back to where he was.
    Very true. Now guys fighting him will know his chin isn't made of iron & he can be hurt or KO'd. I'm sure Shane thought he could win via decision, I wonder @ what point/round he thought: "Screw the decision, I'm hurting this guy & can knock this mofo out!"?

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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    Sure. And if he has been softened up it will be rough for him as he has no way of fighting except war of attrition type fighting, he can't bullshit his way through a few rounds, a fight, etc.

    BTW I don't think by any means Shane softened up Cotto, that's way overestimating the amount of damage he inflicted on Cotto.

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    I didn't think he looked right from the start.. but don't want to take anything away from Mosley. Margarito's best fight would have still lost.

    It's almost certain that the fight will have a lasting effect on him.. obvioulsy not in a good way.
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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    Margarito is done as far as a top welterweight. It would have been one thing if Mosley had beat him on the cards, but not only did Mosley brutally knock Margarito out, he also established that by sticking to the blueprint of combination punching from distance, going to the body, and clinching, beats Margarito. Also, Margarito couldn't adjust. He saw what Mosley was doing, but he didn't know how to react.

    It is doubtful Margarito beats Cotto next time around, but if he were to beat Cotto again, then it may be the case that Shane just has his number. Like Margarito has Cintron's.

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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    I think that there is a good chance that he is finished. The thing that enabled him to make opponents fear him was his chin, & that was his big selling point to the media. This was the man who COULDN'T be knocked out. Now that that is clearly no longer true, I think it will be tough for him to be the same fighter he was. Still a lot of admiration for the guy as a fighter

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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    Quote Originally Posted by OumaFan View Post
    Sure. And if he has been softened up it will be rough for him as he has no way of fighting except war of attrition type fighting, he can't bullshit his way through a few rounds, a fight, etc.

    BTW I don't think by any means Shane softened up Cotto, that's way overestimating the amount of damage he inflicted on Cotto.

    Must be why cotto was running from shane in the latter part of the fight.
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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    i think a fighter can only take so many punches before it starts to catch up with them and nobody takes more flush punches in a fight than margarito.

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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    Quote Originally Posted by pavlikfan View Post
    i think a fighter can only take so many punches before it starts to catch up with them and nobody takes more flush punches in a fight than margarito.
    Check out Librado Andrade (he looks like Margarito's uglier older brother & that's sayin somethin) he literally defends with his face so he can get his punches off.

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    This past fight could have cracked Toni's chin but I think it just showed the way everyone should fight Margarito if they want to win. Miguel Cotto was probably kicking himself by the 3rd round of the Margarito-Mosley fight because he had the opportunity to do exactly what Mosley did but he moved too much and took the power off his punches and tired himself out.


    ALSO there is the BIG issue of illegal handwraps, was Toni using illegal wrapping when he beat Cotto? Is that the reason he damn near took that guy's ear off? There are SERIOUS questions about Toni's career from this fight....but he does have heart, I'll give him that

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    Think both Cotto and Cintron power is over rated big time i think Mosley did to Margarito because he is was mentally and phsically thougher then both those guys put together not only that but with his speed his power is more effective Margarito has never had punches hurt him that bad.

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    Default Re: Isn't it possible that Margarito is ruined for good..

    Quote Originally Posted by Lyle View Post
    This past fight could have cracked Toni's chin but I think it just showed the way everyone should fight Margarito if they want to win. Miguel Cotto was probably kicking himself by the 3rd round of the Margarito-Mosley fight because he had the opportunity to do exactly what Mosley did but he moved too much and took the power off his punches and tired himself out.


    ALSO there is the BIG issue of illegal handwraps, was Toni using illegal wrapping when he beat Cotto? Is that the reason he damn near took that guy's ear off? There are SERIOUS questions about Toni's career from this fight....but he does have heart, I'll give him that
    Im going to put it like this. If all this handwrap issue is true then its pretty hard for anyone to think that he never used plaster in the first place. If he used it against Mosley then he used it in his other fights IMO.

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