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    Default Re: Margaritos Camp Offers An Explanation

    I would put more of the blame on Tony's corner, they should know theres no way the CSAC or WBA would allow the treated gauze, and for them to have to re-wrap 3 times is just stupid. Boxers usually don't concern themselves with that stuff, if it did happen I doubt it was Tony's idea is what I'm saying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Really RP?
    There were rumors floating for years that Craig Nettles was corking his bat,it took the thing exploding for him to finally get caught.
    Gaylord Perry is in the Hall Of Fame, and he bluntly said his best pitch was a spitball
    Both of those are illegal,though I will say,I have no idea why they are.
    The rules call for a wooden bat and your own physical skills.So who cares if the bats hollow,or one of your physical skills is to hock a luger on cue?
    Never really understood those two rules. I can see bringing in a foriegn object to scuff the ball,or loading your bat with lead shot to get more oomph behind it.
    You can't compare modern day sports to the past, there is just too much differential over the last 30 years.. Nowadays, anytime a manager walks out of the dugout and has a good enough reason to check a bat for excessive pine tar or corking, chances are that it will be done..

    With instant replay and the technology we have today, spitballs would easily be detected.. It's basically anything to change the appearance of the ball, and with cameras today, you can stop a hummingbirds wings, so you can easily stop a pitch while it's on it's way to the plate.

    I just used those as an example, and i'll say it AGAIN.. These incidents do not effect someones life in the way that loaded gloves would. I find it VERY hard to believe that ANYONE would be apprehensive to question someones wrappings before putting gloves on.. This is the persons job to make sure the wrappings are safe and legal..

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    But who would be the 'league' in this case? The commission? So Margarito gets suspended, there's nothing to stop him from going over to New Jersey or New York for his next bout.
    Whoever is inspecting his wrapping is the league. If that's the commision, then yes..

    If he got caught in New Jersey for attempting to load his gloves, and it was publicized, like this incident has, do you think that if he's fighting in New York that they wouldn't pay close attention to this?

    We're getting off track here.. my point was simply that it is someones job, and responsibility to make it a fair fight. This includes monitoring the wrapping of his gloves. If he loads his gloves, and they do not see it, then they're failing to do their job. They should be held responsible for it.

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    Default Re: Margaritos Camp Offers An Explanation

    Cmon,everybody secretly knows Bonds was juicing on HGH,just without proof,what can you do.
    And if you broke in to his house screaming "AHA,IVE GOT YOU NOW" and there was no got to get,youd look pretty bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey View Post
    Cmon,everybody secretly knows Bonds was juicing on HGH,just without proof,what can you do.
    And if you broke in to his house screaming "AHA,IVE GOT YOU NOW" and there was no got to get,youd look pretty bad
    There are accounts of Bonds testing positive for steroids.. Unfortunately it was before the steroid tests were implemented. Therefore, when you have money, and some big names working for you, you will find those loopholes (See: OJ Simpson)..

    It's not a secret, and they have proof.

    This is still a chemical test versus a human witnessing a physical object being illegal..

    This is a BIG deal, and in sports, ESPECIALLY as testosterone driven as boxing, I don't think there needs to be a quiet voice.. If someone travels in a basketball game, everyone yells "THATS A TRAVEL!!" to the ref.. I don't think that if someones life was on the line, anyone would be quiet about worrying about loaded gloves.

    You're used to boxing, financially, on a much much much much lesser level.. and i don't mean that in a bad way at all.. i'm just saying that these boxers are making millions upon millions.. the promoters are very wealthy, and these are professionals.. If there is not someone monitoring the wrapping of gloves in every fight, then there are issues far beyond this one incident.

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    Default Re: Margaritos Camp Offers An Explanation

    That is a seriously bad explanation. I save hand wraps from my fighters pro fights for them,they all feel pretty close to the same,no matter who did them. They would way better off saying it was just old gauze,and thats why there was flakes coming off the wraps.
    But to say "We were doctoring the guaze,and thats why the wraps looked doctored" is not the right PR path to take.
    I feel bad for Margarito at this point,its up to his corner to take care of his wraps,heck,most of the time the boxer isnt even looking when he's being wrapped,he just assumes everything is cool. And this might end up costing him his career

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