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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    The governator wants to jump-in on Margo too.

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    In Margaros case have already a jurisprudence ( Collins fight ) , so i dont believe that Margaro didnt know what his trainer doing to him each time when Capetillo wrapping him , for example if somebody try to put on you in the Gauzes or hands-wrap something like that sustance that you unknown , is logic that you will going ask , What is that and for what?

    Isnt it?

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    "I aaaam gaaana paaanish thaa cheeetah!!"
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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Macho View Post
    In Margaros case have already a jurisprudence ( Collins fight ) , so i dont believe that Margaro didnt know what his trainer doing to him each time when Capetillo wrapping him , for example if somebody try to put on you in the Gauzes or hands-wrap something like that sustance that you unknown , is logic that you will going ask , What is that and for what?

    Isnt it?
    Just like Tito would do right? and no i don't think Trinidad loaded up his gloves either, but he was accused of the same thing, and then i thought the same thing i think now, that it's just plain out bullshit, and if Capetillo were to do it, well hell you can't automatically say the fighter knew about it, plenty times you see a fighter just relaxing with headphones on while getting wrapped, getting focused for the fight

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Gov. Arnie should worry more about getting his State out of financial ruin.DAMN...who busted The Governatter in the lip

    Tony or any fighter for that matter should not be counted on to micro manage their respected corner people/trainer in doing their jobs.Mind needs to be on the ring and opponent.

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Gov. Arnie should worry more about getting his State out of financial ruin.DAMN...who busted The Governatter in the lip

    Tony or any fighter for that matter should not be counted on to micro manage their respected corner people/trainer in doing their jobs.Mind needs to be on the ring and opponent.
    Dunno, but I thought it was fitting for the thread

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    I am curious Danny G why do you not like Margarito? I can see why alot of people dont like some fighters because of their style or their attitude outside the ring. So I am honestly interested in knowing what you have against Margo?
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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by OnixAA View Post
    I am curious Danny G why do you not like Margarito? I can see why alot of people dont like some fighters because of their style or their attitude outside the ring. So I am honestly interested in knowing what you have against Margo?
    It was rivalry with Cotto but after he beat Cotto, it was all good. I was rooting for Tony before the Mosley fight, but when news came out that he was loading his gloves, it all made perfect sense. He destroyed Cintron and Cotto and yet his punches against Shane were as though Sergio Mora himself was throwing those weak azz pity pat punches. Like Lampley said, where were those tremendous THUDDING punches against Mosley? He cheated, plain and simple. Fight to win and do what you can and must but adding plaster to your wraps is just a little too much for me. I lost respect for the guy.

    In closing, when I found out about the plaster, I immediately began to root for Mosley and I enjoyed the fight very much because someone was caught cheating and got exposed right after.
    Last edited by SigmaMu; 02-02-2009 at 03:27 AM.

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kel View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Gov. Arnie should worry more about getting his State out of financial ruin.DAMN...who busted The Governatter in the lip

    Tony or any fighter for that matter should not be counted on to micro manage their respected corner people/trainer in doing their jobs.Mind needs to be on the ring and opponent.
    Dunno, but I thought it was fitting for the thread
    Looks like Shane got a little carried away,Arnolds all messed up.Looks fresh

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    I liked Tony, but its pay to play...if he played around with the rules he has to pay.....If he loaded his gloves ban him for life.....

    I respected Tony as a fighter even though I rooted for Cotto and Mosley (alot of times I go for the underdog), but if he did choose to cheat in this way he should be banned...

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Gov. Arnie should worry more about getting his State out of financial ruin.DAMN...who busted The Governatter in the lip

    Tony or any fighter for that matter should not be counted on to micro manage their respected corner people/trainer in doing their jobs.Mind needs to be on the ring and opponent.
    Fighters and whoever is wrapping their hands have to be on the same page. You can't just wrap every fighters hands the same - every fighter's hands are different and because of that plus their style of boxing - handwrapping should be different and catered toward the boxer. This happens with feedback, input and learning as they develop that relationship. It also comes in training camp if that relationship isn't already in place (new trainer). Fight night is NOT the first time a fighter gets his hands wrapped by an individual.Even for my boxers that I've wrapped their hands for years - I get feedback to make sure the job feels good TO THEM. Doesn't really matter what I think. I'm no pro at handwrapping, but I know that pros know exactly how the wrap job should feel for them.

    My point is that unless they 'loaded' his gloves regulary and during training camp - I would think Margarito either 1) knew something was different that night about the handwraps and planned to keep quiet or 2) he knew all along they "wrapped" his hands that way

    I don't really buy the "he didn't know" excuse. A fighters hands are his career. You just don't go to sleep and wake up with your hands wrapped.
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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    What if Cotto isnt tha same fighter he was prior to Tony and Tony is found guilty of loading his gloves....I think Tony should go to prison.......He essentially robbed Cotto of a Wolrd Championship career....

    Dont cry Tony nut huggers...there was no reason for Tony to load his gloves before the Shane fight as compared to his three prior fights.........It is not like he wasnt knocking people out....

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by DC Amateur Boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Gov. Arnie should worry more about getting his State out of financial ruin.DAMN...who busted The Governatter in the lip

    Tony or any fighter for that matter should not be counted on to micro manage their respected corner people/trainer in doing their jobs.Mind needs to be on the ring and opponent.
    Fighters and whoever is wrapping their hands have to be on the same page. You can't just wrap every fighters hands the same - every fighter's hands are different and because of that plus their style of boxing - handwrapping should be different and catered toward the boxer. This happens with feedback, input and learning as they develop that relationship. It also comes in training camp if that relationship isn't already in place (new trainer). Fight night is NOT the first time a fighter gets his hands wrapped by an individual.Even for my boxers that I've wrapped their hands for years - I get feedback to make sure the job feels good TO THEM. Doesn't really matter what I think. I'm no pro at handwrapping, but I know that pros know exactly how the wrap job should feel for them.

    My point is that unless they 'loaded' his gloves regulary and during training camp - I would think Margarito either 1) knew something was different that night about the handwraps and planned to keep quiet or 2) he knew all along they "wrapped" his hands that way

    I don't really buy the "he didn't know" excuse. A fighters hands are his career. You just don't go to sleep and wake up with your hands wrapped.

    That's pretty much what I was gonna say except your's was better.

    BTW what has gone on with this in the past week, I've been out of the loop, is it still being reviewed?

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    Quote Originally Posted by DC Amateur Boxing View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins View Post
    Gov. Arnie should worry more about getting his State out of financial ruin.DAMN...who busted The Governatter in the lip

    Tony or any fighter for that matter should not be counted on to micro manage their respected corner people/trainer in doing their jobs.Mind needs to be on the ring and opponent.
    Fighters and whoever is wrapping their hands have to be on the same page. You can't just wrap every fighters hands the same - every fighter's hands are different and because of that plus their style of boxing - handwrapping should be different and catered toward the boxer. This happens with feedback, input and learning as they develop that relationship. It also comes in training camp if that relationship isn't already in place (new trainer). Fight night is NOT the first time a fighter gets his hands wrapped by an individual.Even for my boxers that I've wrapped their hands for years - I get feedback to make sure the job feels good TO THEM. Doesn't really matter what I think. I'm no pro at handwrapping, but I know that pros know exactly how the wrap job should feel for them.

    My point is that unless they 'loaded' his gloves regulary and during training camp - I would think Margarito either 1) knew something was different that night about the handwraps and planned to keep quiet or 2) he knew all along they "wrapped" his hands that way

    I don't really buy the "he didn't know" excuse. A fighters hands are his career. You just don't go to sleep and wake up with your hands wrapped.
    Actually a very nice point but I have somewhat of an small idea of the internal bond and communications that are not only existent in a dressing room but throughout a training camp between fighter and trainer.On one hand I would think that after so many years together at a contender and championship level there is less need for a fighter to scrutinize and micro manage his trainer on his everyday duties...and vis versa.A trainer mentors,over sees,guides and corrects among other things as far as I know.The fighter needs to and should be focused on the ring.Just a huge leap in assumption to conclude Tony had knowledge of any thing that frankly has yet to be determined in detail in commission findings.......shite,we don't even know what we know as far as the "it" and to presume we do with a mans career at stake is rash Imo.We're putting the cart before the horse.And no,I'm not making excuses for something or someone that we do not know the full deal on yet...that would be premature.

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    Default Re: Gov, Arnold Schwarznegger: "Team Margarito is going to pay for cheating.

    I'm not wanting to get into this before we know the results of the inquiry but I read one guy who says he's been boxing for 20 years and said there's no way on earth anybody doesn't know what's in their wraps. Is this true?

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