Challenge to all.........

[ICB]

I keep hearing all this negative stuff about Calzhage and I'm just stunned. The guy is the most complete package of our era.

Tell me where you guys guys have found a better package of Speed, Heart, Ring Smarts, Adjustments, Chin, Conditioning, Skill, Dedication and his fights are clean. No need to cheat when you're this good i guess. (Hopkins)

The easiest question ever on this forum.

Muhamamd Ali
Salvador Sanchez
Ricardo Lopez
Sugar Ray Leonard
Sugar Ray Robinson
Mike McCallum
Larry Holmes
Floyd Mayweather Jr
Pernell Whitaker
Ezzard Charles
Marvin Hagler
Roy Jones Jr
Alexis Arguello
Gene Tunney
Azumah Nelson
Miguel Canto

Should i go on ?

[ross]

Non could stay at the absolute pinnacle of their game and be the best regarded p4p fighter in or around their weight for 12 constant years and right up till they were 36 and retire undefeated

[ICB]

Non could stay at the absolute pinnacle of their game and be the best regarded p4p fighter in or around their weight for 12 constant years and right up till they were 36 and retire undefeated

Archie Moore did it until he was 46 and i mean manage to stay at near the top of the division, no boxer in the world would stay undefeated against his opposition and with the number of fights he had.

[Rocky Balboa]

Agreed ^^^.

Bernard Hopkins = 43

Put him with Calzaghe 5 years ago Hopkins would have won. Now give me another name please. Lacy? Ok, ONE guy that wasn't too old. Just one. Roy Jones Jr is way past his prime (which was cut short but his weight problems). Give me any names, ANY other than Lacy. Not some old, past their prime champions.

Floyd Mayweather on the other hand: De La Hoya (yes, he without a doubt won that fight), Zab Judah, Ricky Hatton, Arturo Gatti (ok, might not deserve to be on this list), among others.

And possibly, hopefully Pacqiuao sometime on the list. Or maybe Mosley.

Mayweather, doubtlessly better than Calzaghe. Calzaghe has fought has beens all his career (don't give me this "Jeff Lacy thing"), Floyd hasn't: end of story.

[ross]

Bernard was offered the match 5 years ago and after agreeing on everything, he suddenly doubled his money demands, when the realisation it him he shiit his pants

Mayweather did a good job of fighting people coming off losses and avoiding Tszyu, hes not even relevant anymore, who is he, everyones talking about Joe because hes a better fighter, no one gave a shiit when Floyd retired, there wasnt this much debate when Floyd quit because we all agreed "big deal!"

[ICB]

Bernard was offered the match 5 years ago and after agreeing on everything, he suddenly doubled his money demands, when the realisation it him he shiit his pants

Mayweather did a good job of fighting people coming off losses and avoiding Tszyu, hes not even relevant anymore, who is he, everyones talking about Joe because hes a better fighter, no one gave a shiit when Floyd retired, there wasnt this much debate when Floyd quit because we all agreed "big deal!"

Are you kidding me ? there wasn't much debate when Floyd Mayweather Jr retired ? there was threads upon threads of it and there still is. Kostya Tszyu would of got his shot had he beat Ricky Hatton, Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu and he got his shot against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

And Floyd Mayweather Jr beat the man who beat Kostya Tszyu, if Joe Calzaghe is the better fighter then why wasn't he rated P4P number 1 ? and why is Floyd Mayweather considered much higher in the all time rankings ? And if your honestly trying to tell me Joe Calzaghe is a more skilled fighter than Floyd Mayweather, then you need medical attention.

Floyd Mayweather Jr

Ricky Hatton
ODLH
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Emanuel Augustus
Angel Manfredy
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
Victoriano Sosa

World titles Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight

Joe Calzaghe

Robin Reid
Mikkel Kessler
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Charles Brewer
Chris Eubank
Byron Mitchell
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Charles Brewer
Omar Sheika
Richie Woodhall
Mario Veit x2

World titles Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight.

[Bx730NY]

Bernard was offered the match 5 years ago and after agreeing on everything, he suddenly doubled his money demands, when the realisation it him he shiit his pants

Mayweather did a good job of fighting people coming off losses and avoiding Tszyu, hes not even relevant anymore, who is he, everyones talking about Joe because hes a better fighter, no one gave a shiit when Floyd retired, there wasnt this much debate when Floyd quit because we all agreed "big deal!"

Are you kidding me ? there wasn't much debate when Floyd Mayweather Jr retired ? there was threads upon threads of it and there still is. Kostya Tszyu would of got his shot had he beat Ricky Hatton, Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu and he got his shot against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

And Floyd Mayweather Jr beat the man who beat Kostya Tszyu, if Joe Calzaghe is the better fighter then why wasn't he rated P4P number 1 ? and why is Floyd Mayweather considered much higher in the all time rankings ? And if your honestly trying to tell me Joe Calzaghe is a more skilled fighter than Floyd Mayweather, then you need medical attention.

Floyd Mayweather Jr

Ricky Hatton
ODLH
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Emanuel Augustus
Angel Manfredy
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
Victoriano Sosa

World titles Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight

Joe Calzaghe

Robin Reid
Mikkel Kessler
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Charles Brewer
Chris Eubank
Byron Mitchell
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Charles Brewer
Omar Sheika
Richie Woodhall
Mario Veit x2

World titles Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight.

I will say that Joe is better than floyd. Can you imagine them fighting in the same weight? floyd would be trying to counter all night and would be overwhelmed by the speed skill and workrate of Joe.

floyd struggled with another fast southpaw in Judah that isn't 1/10 the fighter, ring general or has half the ring IQ of Joe and Zab would have won if he wouldn't have faded so fast.

BTW, the reason he was never rated above floyd is because of his lack of american exposure. floyd got on the big stage and did nothing with it but avoid every dangerous opponent.

[ICB]

Bernard was offered the match 5 years ago and after agreeing on everything, he suddenly doubled his money demands, when the realisation it him he shiit his pants

Mayweather did a good job of fighting people coming off losses and avoiding Tszyu, hes not even relevant anymore, who is he, everyones talking about Joe because hes a better fighter, no one gave a shiit when Floyd retired, there wasnt this much debate when Floyd quit because we all agreed "big deal!"

Are you kidding me ? there wasn't much debate when Floyd Mayweather Jr retired ? there was threads upon threads of it and there still is. Kostya Tszyu would of got his shot had he beat Ricky Hatton, Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu and he got his shot against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

And Floyd Mayweather Jr beat the man who beat Kostya Tszyu, if Joe Calzaghe is the better fighter then why wasn't he rated P4P number 1 ? and why is Floyd Mayweather considered much higher in the all time rankings ? And if your honestly trying to tell me Joe Calzaghe is a more skilled fighter than Floyd Mayweather, then you need medical attention.

Floyd Mayweather Jr

Ricky Hatton
ODLH
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Emanuel Augustus
Angel Manfredy
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
Victoriano Sosa

World titles Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight

Joe Calzaghe

Robin Reid
Mikkel Kessler
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Charles Brewer
Chris Eubank
Byron Mitchell
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Charles Brewer
Omar Sheika
Richie Woodhall
Mario Veit x2

World titles Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight.

I will say that Joe is better than floyd. Can you imagine them fighting in the same weight? floyd would be trying to counter all night and would be overwhelmed by the speed skill and workrate of Joe.

floyd struggled with another fast southpaw in Judah that isn't 1/10 the fighter, ring general or has half the ring IQ of Joe and Zab would have won if he wouldn't have faded so fast.

BTW, the reason he was never rated above floyd is because of his lack of american exposure. floyd got on the big stage and did nothing with it but avoid every dangerous opponent.

Floyd Mayweather P4P Super Featherweight version would ruin Joe Calzaghe. Floyd Mayweather easily beat Zab Judah what the hell are you talking about ? he won 3 rounds of out of 12. Joe Calzaghe struggled against Bernard Hopkins who was a counter puncher. He's also struggled against the likes of Richie Woodhall, Robin Reid, ETC.

Joe Calzaghe better than Floyd Mayweather are you out of your mind seriously ?

[ross]

Joe beats Floyd

[ICB]

Joe beats Floyd

Why don't you go beat yourself so badly so you can't type anymore, so i won't have to view your useless biased posts anymore.

[Drago]

if joe was american then he would be an all time great!

[ElTerribleMorales]

Joe beats Floyd

yea and i'm pretty sure Joe would beat Ivan Calderon also but it's not because he's a better more talented fighter than him

[Dark Lord Al]

Bernard was offered the match 5 years ago and after agreeing on everything, he suddenly doubled his money demands, when the realisation it him he shiit his pants

Mayweather did a good job of fighting people coming off losses and avoiding Tszyu, hes not even relevant anymore, who is he, everyones talking about Joe because hes a better fighter, no one gave a shiit when Floyd retired, there wasnt this much debate when Floyd quit because we all agreed "big deal!"

Are you kidding me ? there wasn't much debate when Floyd Mayweather Jr retired ? there was threads upon threads of it and there still is. Kostya Tszyu would of got his shot had he beat Ricky Hatton, Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu and he got his shot against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

And Floyd Mayweather Jr beat the man who beat Kostya Tszyu, if Joe Calzaghe is the better fighter then why wasn't he rated P4P number 1 ? and why is Floyd Mayweather considered much higher in the all time rankings ? And if your honestly trying to tell me Joe Calzaghe is a more skilled fighter than Floyd Mayweather, then you need medical attention.

Floyd Mayweather Jr

Ricky Hatton
ODLH
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Emanuel Augustus
Angel Manfredy
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
Victoriano Sosa

World titles Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight

Joe Calzaghe

Robin Reid
Mikkel Kessler
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Charles Brewer
Chris Eubank
Byron Mitchell
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Charles Brewer
Omar Sheika
Richie Woodhall
Mario Veit x2

World titles Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight.

I will say that Joe is better than floyd. Can you imagine them fighting in the same weight? floyd would be trying to counter all night and would be overwhelmed by the speed skill and workrate of Joe.

floyd struggled with another fast southpaw in Judah that isn't 1/10 the fighter, ring general or has half the ring IQ of Joe and Zab would have won if he wouldn't have faded so fast.

BTW, the reason he was never rated above floyd is because of his lack of american exposure. floyd got on the big stage and did nothing with it but avoid every dangerous opponent.

YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON.

[Trainer Monkey]

Got to just go go with Al here
Mayweathers list is a who's who in boxing,most of Joes is "Who?"

[Bx730NY]

Are you kidding me ? there wasn't much debate when Floyd Mayweather Jr retired ? there was threads upon threads of it and there still is. Kostya Tszyu would of got his shot had he beat Ricky Hatton, Ricky Hatton beat Kostya Tszyu and he got his shot against Floyd Mayweather Jr.

And Floyd Mayweather Jr beat the man who beat Kostya Tszyu, if Joe Calzaghe is the better fighter then why wasn't he rated P4P number 1 ? and why is Floyd Mayweather considered much higher in the all time rankings ? And if your honestly trying to tell me Joe Calzaghe is a more skilled fighter than Floyd Mayweather, then you need medical attention.

Floyd Mayweather Jr

Ricky Hatton
ODLH
Genaro Hernandez
Jose Luis Castillo x2
Diego Corrales
Zab Judah
Arturo Gatti
Emanuel Augustus
Angel Manfredy
Carlos Hernandez
Jesus Chavez
Phillip N'dou
Victoriano Sosa

World titles Super Featherweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight

Joe Calzaghe

Robin Reid
Mikkel Kessler
Roy Jones Jr
Bernard Hopkins
Charles Brewer
Chris Eubank
Byron Mitchell
Jeff Lacy
Sakio Bika
Charles Brewer
Omar Sheika
Richie Woodhall
Mario Veit x2

World titles Super Middleweight, Light Heavyweight.

I will say that Joe is better than floyd. Can you imagine them fighting in the same weight? floyd would be trying to counter all night and would be overwhelmed by the speed skill and workrate of Joe.

floyd struggled with another fast southpaw in Judah that isn't 1/10 the fighter, ring general or has half the ring IQ of Joe and Zab would have won if he wouldn't have faded so fast.

BTW, the reason he was never rated above floyd is because of his lack of american exposure. floyd got on the big stage and did nothing with it but avoid every dangerous opponent.

YOU ARE A FUCKING MORON.

OK Internet tough guy. lol