Geez these f'ers are crazy.

[Trainer Monkey]

How many US citizens did George Bush sentence to death because they converted to Islam or made a translation of the Bible into anoter language?

You seriously cannot even compare the two. What about that British woman school teacher late last year who was sentenced to 40 lashes becuase she named a school teddy bear Muhammad?

You are defending an undefendable point the differences between Christian tolerance (in fact any religion) and Islamic tolerance is night and day.

Really,you mean like forcing children to handle poisonous snakes?
Because thats quite common in the south
All based on one obscure tract in the Bible,if your morally righteous the logic goes,god will protect you,if you get bit,something was wrong with you.
Or do you mean forcing women to wear face covering hoods,and allways keep your eyes downcast like the Amish do?
Maybe the multiple wives of the Mormons upset you

Well first off the carpet bombing of a country might be evil but its nothing to do with religion whatseover. Bush didn't go to war for Christ so why is that even relevent? All the churces were opposed to the war as I recall.

As for your other frankly ridiculous comments since when has the compulsary handling of deadly snakes been an official part of US law?

And since when have the Amish killed and imprisoned their fellow Americans for not following the Amish traditions?

Actually your stupid examples in fact only go to highlight how America is MORE tolerent becuase these fringe minority groups are allowed to carry out their lives and live their religious beliefs unmolested by the American government.

If the Amish moved into Iran they would all be rounded up, tortured, stoned and then killed for their beliefs which differed from the Quran.

How can you not see the sheer insanity of what you are saying

Funny because thats not what Bush said,what Bush said was we were "On a crusade" and that "God chose me for this job"

[Trainer Monkey]

And since I know you dont know Bilbo,if you break Amish law,your "Shunned" it means with no training on how to deal with the real world,your cut off from everyone youve ever known,forever.All your friends,all of your family,you cease to exist.
All things considered,stoning might be kinder,at least it doesnt last as long,same result,shorter duration of punishment

[El Kabong]

Funny because thats not what Bush said,what Bush said was we were "On a crusade" and that "God chose me for this job"

It's also funny that you omitted that he said "Death to the infidels" oh wait those were the muslims......also I bet you could ask a million Americans about the Crusades and none of them could name a participant or a battle that was fought in any of them.....as opposed to the culture of the Middle East where they go to their hooka bars and drink coffee and tell tales of how King Richard slaughtered hundreds at Acre.....oh Islam is just oppressed by everyone boo fucking whoo....you know even before Islam those Middle Easterners were a bellicose society but are we allowed to talk about that NOOOOOO because people like Trainer here think that WE the western world are ALWAYS the problem and never the solution and I beg you to look across history and prove me wrong....prove that we the western world picked these fights....because as far back as you can go, I can go a little farther and show that THEY have always started shit no matter their religion.

[Trainer Monkey]

Funny because thats not what Bush said,what Bush said was we were "On a crusade" and that "God chose me for this job"

It's also funny that you omitted that he said "Death to the infidels" oh wait those were the muslims......also I bet you could ask a million Americans about the Crusades and none of them could name a participant or a battle that was fought in any of them.....as opposed to the culture of the Middle East where they go to their hooka bars and drink coffee and tell tales of how King Richard slaughtered hundreds at Acre.....oh Islam is just oppressed by everyone boo fucking whoo....you know even before Islam those Middle Easterners were a bellicose society but are we allowed to talk about that NOOOOOO because people like Trainer here think that WE the western world are ALWAYS the problem and never the solution and I beg you to look across history and prove me wrong....prove that we the western world picked these fights....because as far back as you can go, I can go a little farther and show that THEY have always started shit no matter their religion.

You could come up with a moment when we were the solution
I could but,Im curious to see if you can
And by the way,nice set of stereotypes,Im sure you also believe all french people smoke cigarettes while eating croisantes and sipping coffee
All African Americans cant wait to get their fried chicken washed down with a 40 weight
All native americans cant weight to get their hands on some whiskey
Ireland doesnt have GDP because everybody is still sleeping it off
Poland doesnt have a GDP because nobody is smart enough to find the factory
Any other stereotypes youd like to hit while we're working at it

[El Kabong]

You could come up with a moment when we were the solution
I could but,Im curious to see if you can
And by the way,nice set of stereotypes,Im sure you also believe all french people smoke cigarettes while eating croisantes and sipping coffee
All African Americans cant wait to get their fried chicken washed down with a 40 weight
All native americans cant weight to get their hands on some whiskey
Ireland doesnt have GDP because everybody is still sleeping it off
Poland doesnt have a GDP because nobody is smart enough to find the factory
Any other stereotypes youd like to hit while we're working at it

Trainer, I didn't stereotype anyone, I just mentioned one (OF MANY) activities practiced by the people of this culture....an activity I actually wish more cultures participated in, just not to the extent that we wish people killed in the name of God. I just don't appreciate the stoning of victims and cutting off innocent people's heads in the name of Allah. I also don't support hanging the massacred bodies of innocent workers from a bridge....also in the name of Allah. Tell me I'm wrong Trainer

I don't THINK the western culture has a bunch to offer, I KNOW we have a bunch to offer. I just wonder where is the outrage for these tragedies

[El Kabong]

Also....Trainer, did I ever tell you about the War of Northern Aggression?

[Von Milash]

Lyle and Bilb, I owe you guys reps.

I'm not even sure how TM can even BEGIN to compare ANY religion to Islam. Yes there are crazies everywhere, but Muslims take the cake. They are fucking bonkers.

[Trainer Monkey]

Also....Trainer, did I ever tell you about the War of Northern Aggression?

You mean where the south fired first?

[Trainer Monkey]

You could come up with a moment when we were the solution
I could but,Im curious to see if you can
And by the way,nice set of stereotypes,Im sure you also believe all french people smoke cigarettes while eating croisantes and sipping coffee
All African Americans cant wait to get their fried chicken washed down with a 40 weight
All native americans cant weight to get their hands on some whiskey
Ireland doesnt have GDP because everybody is still sleeping it off
Poland doesnt have a GDP because nobody is smart enough to find the factory
Any other stereotypes youd like to hit while we're working at it

Trainer, I didn't stereotype anyone, I just mentioned one (OF MANY) activities practiced by the people of this culture....an activity I actually wish more cultures participated in, just not to the extent that we wish people killed in the name of God. I just don't appreciate the stoning of victims and cutting off innocent people's heads in the name of Allah. I also don't support hanging the massacred bodies of innocent workers from a bridge....also in the name of Allah. Tell me I'm wrong Trainer

I don't THINK the western culture has a bunch to offer, I KNOW we have a bunch to offer. I just wonder where is the outrage for these tragedies

Where is the outrage at the absolute homicides committed by Western religions,because there's plenty of them to work with?
If some jackass hunts down an abortion clinic worker and blows their brains out,I bet you I dont hear about it 24/7 on Faux News,some jackass who happens to be muslim sends a firecracker in to Israel,I know whats going to dominate the news cycle for the next week

[El Kabong]

Where is the outrage at the absolute homicides committed by Western religions,because there's plenty of them to work with?
If some jackass hunts down an abortion clinic worker and blows their brains out,I bet you I dont hear about it 24/7 on Faux News,some jackass who happens to be muslim sends a firecracker in to Israel,I know whats going to dominate the news cycle for the next week

You're comparing guys like Eric Robert Rudolph and Muslims Keep going, I think you are REALLY helping their cause

[Trainer Monkey]

Where is the outrage at the absolute homicides committed by Western religions,because there's plenty of them to work with?
If some jackass hunts down an abortion clinic worker and blows their brains out,I bet you I dont hear about it 24/7 on Faux News,some jackass who happens to be muslim sends a firecracker in to Israel,I know whats going to dominate the news cycle for the next week

You're comparing guys like Eric Robert Rudolph and Muslims Keep going, I think you are REALLY helping their cause

Why not,there are nut jobs on both sides of the issue.
Im Buddhist,I could care less if all three of the perps got closed in to a stadium for a death war,and kept me the fuck out of it,but since that isnt how life works,put down your stones,the whole house is made of glass Mr Christian

[CFH]

Funny because thats not what Bush said,what Bush said was we were "On a crusade" and that "God chose me for this job"

It's also funny that you omitted that he said "Death to the infidels" oh wait those were the muslims......also I bet you could ask a million Americans about the Crusades and none of them could name a participant or a battle that was fought in any of them.....as opposed to the culture of the Middle East where they go to their hooka bars and drink coffee and tell tales of how King Richard slaughtered hundreds at Acre.....oh Islam is just oppressed by everyone boo fucking whoo....you know even before Islam those Middle Easterners were a bellicose society but are we allowed to talk about that NOOOOOO because people like Trainer here think that WE the western world are ALWAYS the problem and never the solution and I beg you to look across history and prove me wrong....prove that we the western world picked these fights....because as far back as you can go, I can go a little farther and show that THEY have always started shit no matter their religion.

I'm going to ignore the rest of your absurd rant because I can't be bothered to argue with you and your particular brand of lunacy, but characterizing all Muslims as religious zealots who cry "death to the infidels" is ridiculous. That's like saying every African-American is a member of the Black Panthers dedicated to overthrowing the government or that all southerners are in the Klan. It's a very small percentage of their population who feel that way and those in power use religion as a political tool; it has very little, if anything, to do with the religion itself. Christians etc. have done the same thing in the past.

This is the end of my involvement in this thread, enjoy yourselves.