Geez these f'ers are crazy.

[Trainer Monkey]

And my main point was,obviously missed,if your going to climb up on your high horse in a religious dispute,best to make sure there arent any slips on your climb up.
We have numerous Islaam allies,and we have some muslims that cant stand us.
Feeling is obviously mutual,judging from this thread.
And its stupid,its a minor schism from the same religion,Muslims claim their lineage from Abraham,same as Jews and Christians
And all three have done some seriously screwed up stuff in the name of god.
And until some religion actually claims the moral higher ground in deeds,all three are full of shit,but wallowing in the same level of muck.
I dont want to be doing care work in Gaza and hit by an Israeli missile(jews) going to work when a plane hits the building(muslim) or enjoying the Olympics when the bomb goes off(Christian)
Until all three religions get way better aim,and leave those of us who are out of it alone,knock it the fuck off.

[Andre]

And my main point was,obviously missed,if your going to climb up on your high horse in a religious dispute,best to make sure there arent any slips on your climb up.
We have numerous Islaam allies,and we have some muslims that cant stand us.
Feeling is obviously mutual,judging from this thread.
And its stupid,its a minor schism from the same religion,Muslims claim their lineage from Abraham,same as Jews and Christians
And all three have done some seriously screwed up stuff in the name of god.
And until some religion actually claims the moral higher ground in deeds,all three are full of shit,but wallowing in the same level of muck.
I dont want to be doing care work in Gaza and hit by an Israeli missile(jews) going to work when a plane hits the building(muslim) or enjoying the Olympics when the bomb goes off(Christian)
Until all three religions get way better aim,and leave those of us who are out of it alone,knock it the fuck off.

As I wrote above; anyone who goes for power or control over others has missed the boat in their own religion and are not of Gods doing or on the side of good or whatever you want to call it.
Even if they claim to be so,they are not doing work from the light side so they are the reverse.They derive power from the other side of the fence.Until they open their hearts their insane minds and egos will rule this place and take us out with their acts.

Religion is their front!

[Trainer Monkey]

And my main point was,obviously missed,if your going to climb up on your high horse in a religious dispute,best to make sure there arent any slips on your climb up.
We have numerous Islaam allies,and we have some muslims that cant stand us.
Feeling is obviously mutual,judging from this thread.
And its stupid,its a minor schism from the same religion,Muslims claim their lineage from Abraham,same as Jews and Christians
And all three have done some seriously screwed up stuff in the name of god.
And until some religion actually claims the moral higher ground in deeds,all three are full of shit,but wallowing in the same level of muck.
I dont want to be doing care work in Gaza and hit by an Israeli missile(jews) going to work when a plane hits the building(muslim) or enjoying the Olympics when the bomb goes off(Christian)
Until all three religions get way better aim,and leave those of us who are out of it alone,knock it the fuck off.

As I wrote above; anyone who goes for power or control over others has missed the boat in their own religion and are not of Gods doing or on the side of good or whatever you want to call it.
Even if they claim to be so,they are not doing work from the light side so they are the reverse.They derive power from the other side of the fence.Until they open their hearts their insane minds and egos will rule this place and take us out with their acts.

Religion is their front!

If any of the three actually followed their own holy books,I wouldnt view them the way I do,a bloody fucking nuisance.
But they dont,and I do
And hearing any of them claim the moral high ground just pisses me off on the general principle of honesty

[Kev]

And my main point was,obviously missed,if your going to climb up on your high horse in a religious dispute,best to make sure there arent any slips on your climb up.
We have numerous Islaam allies,and we have some muslims that cant stand us.
Feeling is obviously mutual,judging from this thread.
And its stupid,its a minor schism from the same religion,Muslims claim their lineage from Abraham,same as Jews and Christians
And all three have done some seriously screwed up stuff in the name of god.
And until some religion actually claims the moral higher ground in deeds,all three are full of shit,but wallowing in the same level of muck.
I dont want to be doing care work in Gaza and hit by an Israeli missile(jews) going to work when a plane hits the building(muslim) or enjoying the Olympics when the bomb goes off(Christian)
Until all three religions get way better aim,and leave those of us who are out of it alone,knock it the fuck off.

Sorry again remind which Christian government it was who set off bombs at the Olympics?

[Trainer Monkey]

And my main point was,obviously missed,if your going to climb up on your high horse in a religious dispute,best to make sure there arent any slips on your climb up.
We have numerous Islaam allies,and we have some muslims that cant stand us.
Feeling is obviously mutual,judging from this thread.
And its stupid,its a minor schism from the same religion,Muslims claim their lineage from Abraham,same as Jews and Christians
And all three have done some seriously screwed up stuff in the name of god.
And until some religion actually claims the moral higher ground in deeds,all three are full of shit,but wallowing in the same level of muck.
I dont want to be doing care work in Gaza and hit by an Israeli missile(jews) going to work when a plane hits the building(muslim) or enjoying the Olympics when the bomb goes off(Christian)
Until all three religions get way better aim,and leave those of us who are out of it alone,knock it the fuck off.

Sorry again remind which Christian government it was who set off bombs at the Olympics?

We've set off plenty in Iraq

[Andre]

And my main point was,obviously missed,if your going to climb up on your high horse in a religious dispute,best to make sure there arent any slips on your climb up.
We have numerous Islaam allies,and we have some muslims that cant stand us.
Feeling is obviously mutual,judging from this thread.
And its stupid,its a minor schism from the same religion,Muslims claim their lineage from Abraham,same as Jews and Christians
And all three have done some seriously screwed up stuff in the name of god.
And until some religion actually claims the moral higher ground in deeds,all three are full of shit,but wallowing in the same level of muck.
I dont want to be doing care work in Gaza and hit by an Israeli missile(jews) going to work when a plane hits the building(muslim) or enjoying the Olympics when the bomb goes off(Christian)
Until all three religions get way better aim,and leave those of us who are out of it alone,knock it the fuck off.

Sorry again remind which Christian government it was who set off bombs at the Olympics?

He said enjoying the olympics nota bombing at the olympics.Figure of speach I thik.

Like we all have this farce of brotherly unity when competing against each other country to country but then some fukker (christain gov or muslem gov) drops a fukin bomb on their relatives heads...

Both have issues none of them is on the side of Good . really fuk if any of you belive that ...well; Im shocked for you.

[VictorCharlie]

I have little use for religion but after multiple combat tours to Afghanistan and Iraq I have found that in today's world Islam brings out the worst in humanity. Every organized religion has its fair share of crazies and zealots. The difference I've found is that the mainstream of most denounce these fringe groups and their violent or inhumane acts. I have either never or rarely heard of moderate or "good" muslims speak out against the violence and inhumane treatment of sharia law. With the growth of Islam especially in European countries where is the world wide outcry against Jihadism and Sharia Law? The international community was pretty quick to galvanize in their dislike for Bush where is the condemnation of Iran? Taliban? Shia Militias? AQI? There is no diplomacy with this kind of rational. There is no dialogue. Christianity and Judaism have found ways to make their respective religions work with todays culture. Until Islam as a whole can find away to evolve with a changing world I think I will continue to have muslims in my crosshairs.

[Trainer Monkey]

I have little use for religion but after multiple combat tours to Afghanistan and Iraq I have found that in today's world Islam brings out the worst in humanity. Every organized religion has its fair share of crazies and zealots. The difference I've found is that the mainstream of most denounce these fringe groups and their violent or inhumane acts. I have either never or rarely heard of moderate or "good" muslims speak out against the violence and inhumane treatment of sharia law. With the growth of Islam especially in European countries where is the world wide outcry against Jihadism and Sharia Law? The international community was pretty quick to galvanize in their dislike for Bush where is the condemnation of Iran? Taliban? Shia Militias? AQI? There is no diplomacy with this kind of rational. There is no dialogue. Christianity and Judaism have found ways to make their respective religions work with todays culture. Until Islam as a whole can find away to evolve with a changing world I think I will continue to have muslims in my crosshairs.

Really?
Our former Attorney General swabbed himself with Crisco before taking the oath of Senator
And then proceeded as Attorney General to set up a way we could torture people legally
Their pissed off at us for political reasons,not religious ones. It has nothing to do with their god and our god,it has alot to do with us dropping bombs on them.

[VictorCharlie]

Trainer personally I don't think that enemy combatants deserve the same rights as US citizens nor do I think we should follow any rules of war that our adversary doesn't. I'll take torture at Gitmo over decapitation on Al Jazeera all day. And you are right to an extent. The big picture isn't always about religion. It is about power and money. But the tool used to recruit and motivate men and women to murder and commit horrible acts is religion. Islam's supreme leaders could stop this. They could be widely vocal against jihadism but they don't. The world's muslim population is woefully silent on the unattractive underside of their faith.

[Trainer Monkey]

Trainer personally I don't think that enemy combatants deserve the same rights as US citizens nor do I think we should follow any rules of war that our adversary doesn't. I'll take torture at Gitmo over decapitation on Al Jazeera all day. And you are right to an extent. The big picture isn't always about religion. It is about power and money. But the tool used to recruit and motivate men and women to murder and commit horrible acts is religion. Islam's supreme leaders could stop this. They could be widely vocal against jihadism but they don't. The world's muslim population is woefully silent on the unattractive underside of their faith.

No they arent,many omans have come out against this violence
Actually most have
Secondly as far as our treatment of prisoners,we are supposed to be better then that,pissing on the furniture doesnt make me any better then the cat,it only drags me down

[Andre]

Trainer personally I don't think that enemy combatants deserve the same rights as US citizens nor do I think we should follow any rules of war that our adversary doesn't. I'll take torture at Gitmo over decapitation on Al Jazeera all day. And you are right to an extent. The big picture isn't always about religion. It is about power and money. But the tool used to recruit and motivate men and women to murder and commit horrible acts is religion. Islam's supreme leaders could stop this. They could be widely vocal against jihadism but they don't. The world's muslim population is woefully silent on the unattractive underside of their faith.

They are silent because the whole Muslum thing is ran on the power of fear to control those under them.

Like the mob used to be; question them and pay or die; so general people let them go on the way put their heads down and shut up; so the mob evolved and now they are hidden and intrenched into higher places so that Mr and Mrs lewis dont have to see them at work in their streets any longer and now think they dont exist as a force.

Same goes for Our boys at the top of world affairs ,we've done our hard yards in the fields of blood already and we now run the global show.

Now its a matter of protect the position we have.The false Christain "we are here doing the job of the rightouss" is the biggest sham in history your bosses bow to politians who bow to the world banking order who bow to no one, not even God.So religion or freedom isnt what they are really protecting.

Religion is just the excuse now given from the politicans so that Mr and Mrs "Dumb as sh!t Lewis" nod there heads and keep voting and keep on paying taxes for your tours so that the top dogs can keep their control of the only system they belive in.

From our 'Political point of view' it isnt so much Muslim verses us ,although that does exist and they are a threat, sort of with that much oil under them and also the odd attack against our financial buildings etc (thats was a message from them hitting world trade like they did).If they were against Christians they would have shot a plane down into Vatican city (and dont rule that out)if we play that false card they will have a go at it.

Its now all a great excuse to justify the use of what we have built our society up on;which is also warfare and control of society as a whole.

Both sides are antiChrist both sides are insane in terms of the true message and the real way outlined in all the scriptures.

[Andre]

I have little use for religion but after multiple combat tours to Afghanistan and Iraq I have found that in today's world Islam brings out the worst in humanity. Every organized religion has its fair share of crazies and zealots. The difference I've found is that the mainstream of most denounce these fringe groups and their violent or inhumane acts. I have either never or rarely heard of moderate or "good" muslims speak out against the violence and inhumane treatment of sharia law. With the growth of Islam especially in European countries where is the world wide outcry against Jihadism and Sharia Law? The international community was pretty quick to galvanize in their dislike for Bush where is the condemnation of Iran? Taliban? Shia Militias? AQI? There is no diplomacy with this kind of rational. There is no dialogue. Christianity and Judaism have found ways to make their respective religions work with todays culture. Until Islam as a whole can find away to evolve with a changing world I think I will continue to have muslims in my crosshairs.

That is war, Bilbo;
from a bonafide combat killer.

[CFH]

I have little use for religion but after multiple combat tours to Afghanistan and Iraq I have found that in today's world Islam brings out the worst in humanity. Every organized religion has its fair share of crazies and zealots. The difference I've found is that the mainstream of most denounce these fringe groups and their violent or inhumane acts. I have either never or rarely heard of moderate or "good" muslims speak out against the violence and inhumane treatment of sharia law. With the growth of Islam especially in European countries where is the world wide outcry against Jihadism and Sharia Law? The international community was pretty quick to galvanize in their dislike for Bush where is the condemnation of Iran? Taliban? Shia Militias? AQI? There is no diplomacy with this kind of rational. There is no dialogue. Christianity and Judaism have found ways to make their respective religions work with todays culture. Until Islam as a whole can find away to evolve with a changing world I think I will continue to have muslims in my crosshairs.

I know I said I wasn't going to post again in this thread, but that might be the worst thing I have ever seen posted on this site.

You and the "terrorists" deserve each other. I hope you eradicate yourselves.

"Bonafide combat killer"

[Andre]

Fuk me this is sort of linked . last night watched 'secret flights' on the BBc knowledge channel.

Cia been flying planes and landing at bases in Moorocco,spain,kabul,poland,afanistan,germany.
They have been filmed by plane spotters who are these people who flim odd planes for some hobbie reason.

The prisoners on detention in Guatanimo, a fair few of them claim to have been kidnapped off the streets some in Europe some in Pakistan etc beaten ,drugged and taken to different countires where there is no law, tortured over many months ,small hundreds of razor cuts to the whole body, penis,balls the whole nine yards, electic shocks,insertions up the claccer the whole nightmare washed down in salt.Females accompaning the torure squads for humilty reasons, all trying to get them to sign papers for theor own guilt and association and to set up other musliums also as being in with Bin Laden etc. Men they didnt even know.

Some signed after months of abuse ,of course.Other had to learn a confession off by heart and say it on their own in front of a closed military court.

The cameras and the team interview many cia some who speak up to a large degree including the ex chief in charge of the operation who says " Iknow about it but I cannot comment on it",.. Bush gets quizzed,he knows too and shuns the question as do all his team.

Two of these men they have under arrest still; seem in all accounts to be innocnet and one in paticular a british student who travelled to Pakistan for a family wedding was kidnapped flown out put through the ringer and now is still under arrest and noone is allowed near him including his lawyer.
No contact with anyone,and no one is allowed into the court with him when they decide to try him !!! What the fuck!!!

Anyway when some of the prisoners have been able to get word out about dates they were flown in and out of countries,kidnapped etc ,they match up with records from these out of the way landing strips,numbers of planes all match etc to the day and to the country that the toruture was carried out in. All photographed as well .
When the plane landed in Spain mallorca the torture team actually spent a week relaxing in a hotel and used their real names (which were shown in a list and also their matchig army numbers alongside etc.
These 6 cia men have now got warrents out for them in Europe for kidnapping.
USA is silent about it all.wont even bite when quizzed.

This will test Barraka on if he is a man of conscience as he makes out or another devil in disguise.
Team Demon dressed up as Christians all off to work again.

Because alot of the overseas press are looking into it so it may get aired generally.
Canada handed over some poor Islamic bloke to the states and they got him and did the same things to him. let him go eventually cuase he was a canadian citizenl (whoops another wrong innocent man) He sued the Canadian goverment and cost their tax payers some 13 million with a full pardon and appolagies etc.
He filed against the USa too: so they have banned him from entering their boarders under the suspected terrorist laws.

[VictorCharlie]

I have little use for religion but after multiple combat tours to Afghanistan and Iraq I have found that in today's world Islam brings out the worst in humanity. Every organized religion has its fair share of crazies and zealots. The difference I've found is that the mainstream of most denounce these fringe groups and their violent or inhumane acts. I have either never or rarely heard of moderate or "good" muslims speak out against the violence and inhumane treatment of sharia law. With the growth of Islam especially in European countries where is the world wide outcry against Jihadism and Sharia Law? The international community was pretty quick to galvanize in their dislike for Bush where is the condemnation of Iran? Taliban? Shia Militias? AQI? There is no diplomacy with this kind of rational. There is no dialogue. Christianity and Judaism have found ways to make their respective religions work with todays culture. Until Islam as a whole can find away to evolve with a changing world I think I will continue to have muslims in my crosshairs.

I know I said I wasn't going to post again in this thread, but that might be the worst thing I have ever seen posted on this site.

You and the "terrorists" deserve each other. I hope you eradicate yourselves.

"Bonafide combat killer"

It works in reverse as well...Maybe you'd prefer I'd have said "I/You/People will continue to find myself/themself etc in the crosshairs of muslims" I have a job to do CFH and I happen to be good at it. I apologize if this offends you but men like me do it so people like you don't have to.