P4P bias towards American based fighters?

[Galaxy]

Wonjongkam was in the P4P ratings from 25 Jan 05 - 12 Jun 06. Pretty sure he'd qualify as non-American based.

As for John I don't think he has a case. Sure he got the win over Marquez but he has done nothing since!

Just cause you beat a P4Pr doesn't mean you make the list. Look at Darchinyan... he beat Mijares who was on the P4P list but didn't get listed.

Same with Spinks when he defeated Mayorga who was ranked at the time.

There are only 10 spots & there are guys like Williams & Darchinyan who imo deserve to be ranked ahead of John! But that the thing with P4P its all debatable!!!

[Fenster]

Wonjongkam was in the P4P ratings from 25 Jan 05 - 12 Jun 06. Pretty sure he'd qualify as non-American based.

As for John I don't think he has a case. Sure he got the win over Marquez but he has done nothing since!

Just cause you beat a P4Pr doesn't mean you make the list. Look at Darchinyan... he beat Mijares who was on the P4P list but didn't get listed.

Same with Spinks when he defeated Mayorga who was ranked at the time.

There are only 10 spots & there are guys like Williams & Darchinyan who imo deserve to be ranked ahead of John! But that the thing with P4P its all debatable!!!

Good stuff, Galaxy. How do you know the dates? Have you got a link?

I'm not championing John as a P4P fighter. I'm using him as an example because he's a non-American based fighter that doesn't get a look in, even though his record/results deserve consideration.

Beating a P4P fighter means NOTHING.. theres plenty of cases over the past couple of years to prove that.

[Galaxy]

Wonjongkam was in the P4P ratings from 25 Jan 05 - 12 Jun 06. Pretty sure he'd qualify as non-American based.

As for John I don't think he has a case. Sure he got the win over Marquez but he has done nothing since!

Just cause you beat a P4Pr doesn't mean you make the list. Look at Darchinyan... he beat Mijares who was on the P4P list but didn't get listed.

Same with Spinks when he defeated Mayorga who was ranked at the time.

There are only 10 spots & there are guys like Williams & Darchinyan who imo deserve to be ranked ahead of John! But that the thing with P4P its all debatable!!!

Good stuff, Galaxy. How do you know the dates? Have you got a link?

I'm not championing John as a P4P fighter. I'm using him as an example because he's a non-American based fighter that doesn't get a look in, even though his record/results deserve consideration.

Beating a P4P fighter means NOTHING.. theres plenty of cases over the past couple of years to prove that.

Sorry Fenster I ain't got a link as the Ring website doesn't keep archives of their weekly rankings. But I've got copies of every weekly ratings since their website has been up & running. But if you have any of the Ring issues around that time he'll appear in their monthly ratings. He was not removed due to a defeat... When Taylor beat Hopkins it pushed him out.

[Violent Demise]

Can someone tell me how many non-American based fighters have made The Ring P4P top 10 since 2000?

What has stopped current champions like Chris John, Hozumi Hasegawa and Kessler from entry?

Chris John has a win over current P4P no.2 Marquez. Now whether or not you think Marquez was "robbed," he officially LOST to John. MANY believe Hopkins was robbed against Taylor, this didn't stop Taylor from entering P4P. MANY believe Marquez beat Pacman twice.. this hasn't affected Pac's P4P standing. The OFFICIAL result is accepted.

John also has a win over Jose Rojas, a man that KO'd current P4P 10 ranked Celestino Caballero.

Help?

Chris John: Aside that his one big win was a gift. There's also the fact that he's only faced one elite fighter in over 40 career fights. Wins over shot once decent fighters Derrick Gainer and Jose Rojas are his biggest highlights. I'm shocked when ever I read that John is p4p or close to being a p4p fighter. How? The man ain't even p4p top 50. Let alone top 10.

Hozumi Hasegawa: His comp level is much better than John's. He's top 20. A win over another top fighter could put him in the top 10. Him and Anselmo Moreno should fight.

Mikkel Kessler: His biggest news since losing to Calzaghe was punking out of a very winnable fight against Edoson Miranda. To face some obscure fighter. You don't reward cowards.