Margarito, Capetillo licenses revoked!

[Macho]

This is an indignant situation , and now what ?

Suspended just one Year both , both supposed to be banned for live.....

[XaduBoxer]

This is an indignant situation , and now what ?

Suspended just one Year both , both supposed to be banned for live.....

I'm also for ban for life... Cheating and seriously risking the lives of other boxers is a very grave offense...

Even if Margo will be allowed to fight again, some boxers will have second thoughts of fighting him... Margo will also have a hard time finding sparring partners...
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[Kel]

This is an indignant situation , and now what ?

Suspended just one Year both , both supposed to be banned for live.....

I'm also for ban for life... Cheating and seriously risking the lives of other boxers is a very grave offense...

Even if Margo will be allowed to fight again, some boxers will have second thoughts of fighting him... Margo will also have a hard time finding sparring partners...
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Me too, you HAVE to make an example of anyone caught trying to pull this shit off. Then again, Tyson was allowed to fight on just because he generated $$$ after chewing biting off part of his opponent. I really hate stuff like this.

[ClubberLang]

This is an indignant situation , and now what ?

Suspended just one Year both , both supposed to be banned for live.....

I'm also for ban for life... Cheating and seriously risking the lives of other boxers is a very grave offense...

Even if Margo will be allowed to fight again, some boxers will have second thoughts of fighting him... Margo will also have a hard time finding sparring partners...
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He'll probably fight again, but I guarantee you he is done as a major, big money HBO or Showtime attraction. The networks won't go near a convicted cheater, nor will other fighters.

[El Kabong]

Margarito and especially his trainer got off WAAAAAAY too easy....a YEAR?!?!?! This is why boxing has a hard time being taken seriously in the mainstream

[Bomp]

There's nothing new from this hearing. It defies belief that it actually took place before the 'substance' had been identified. Was it old gauze as the trainer claimed, or something harder? did the material harden to rock after a soaking from sweat? was the total weight of the hand wraps larger than the commission allows? Was the material harder than a human knuckle (kind of defeats the object if it wasn't)? Did they test the impact of the wrapping in a glove and compare it to a control sample of wrapping? and then test if the impact got harder after 12 rounds of bashing it against something, again compared to a control sample of wrapping.

If I were to write a paper to a journal about a new substance I'd discovered, then simply described it as a little stiff with a powdary substance on it, I'd expect the referee to reply with some tough questions e.g. what's the powdary substance is it plaster? table salt? cocaine

I'm not defending Marg here, just questioning the due process. I have to admit that the trainer's statements are in itself pretty darn incriminating.

I would just like to add some questions to the band wagoners, if it was just stiff wet gauze then how is it different to what Trinidad did? And where were/are the calls to revoke all titles from his resume and ban any entry to the HoF?

[Macho]

There's nothing new from this hearing. It defies belief that it actually took place before the 'substance' had been identified. Was it old gauze as the trainer claimed, or something harder? did the material harden to rock after a soaking from sweat? was the total weight of the hand wraps larger than the commission allows? Was the material harder than a human knuckle (kind of defeats the object if it wasn't)? Did they test the impact of the wrapping in a glove and compare it to a control sample of wrapping? and then test if the impact got harder after 12 rounds of bashing it against something, again compared to a control sample of wrapping.

If I were to write a paper to a journal about a new substance I'd discovered, then simply described it as a little stiff with a powdary substance on it, I'd expect the referee to reply with some tough questions e.g. what's the powdary substance is it plaster? table salt? cocaine

I'm not defending Marg here, just questioning the due process. I have to admit that the trainer's statements are in itself pretty darn incriminating.

I would just like to add some questions to the band wagoners, if it was just stiff wet gauze then how is it different to what Trinidad did? And where were/are the calls to revoke all titles from his resume and ban any entry to the HoF?

I cant believe that you are another one that think that Trinidad used the same " Pad or Plaster with substance " like Margaro did , cmon Bomp , if that is questionable , why the Commission didnt find something , Richardson complained just for the way that Trinidad was wrapped , was wrapped like 3 times , you dont think that the Commission would found something out of regulation ? IMO that was a really Speculation....

[Bomp]

There's nothing new from this hearing. It defies belief that it actually took place before the 'substance' had been identified. Was it old gauze as the trainer claimed, or something harder? did the material harden to rock after a soaking from sweat? was the total weight of the hand wraps larger than the commission allows? Was the material harder than a human knuckle (kind of defeats the object if it wasn't)? Did they test the impact of the wrapping in a glove and compare it to a control sample of wrapping? and then test if the impact got harder after 12 rounds of bashing it against something, again compared to a control sample of wrapping.

If I were to write a paper to a journal about a new substance I'd discovered, then simply described it as a little stiff with a powdary substance on it, I'd expect the referee to reply with some tough questions e.g. what's the powdary substance is it plaster? table salt? cocaine

I'm not defending Marg here, just questioning the due process. I have to admit that the trainer's statements are in itself pretty darn incriminating.

I would just like to add some questions to the band wagoners, if it was just stiff wet gauze then how is it different to what Trinidad did? And where were/are the calls to revoke all titles from his resume and ban any entry to the HoF?

I cant believe that you are another one that think that Trinidad used the same " Pad or Plaster with substance " like Margaro did , cmon Bomp , if that is questionable , why the Commission didnt find something , Richardson complained just for the way that Trinidad was wrapped , was wrapped like 3 times , you dont think that the Commission would found something out of regulation ? IMO that was a really Speculation....

Well to start with the commision were willing to pass both Marg and Felix's gloves, it was Nazim who spotted both incidiences.

IF it is found in March that the substance is different and harder than wet gauze, then what they did is worse than Trinidad. Trinidad's camp used layer after layer of extra gauzed tape, which would harden when wet, so if it is extra wet gauze that was on Marg's hands, then no I cannot distinguish between the offences.

If you really wanted to distinguish between them then it should be done in a lab, not by speculation on message boards. Nazim is an eyewitness to both and also an experienced hand wrapper, I'm sure he could reproduce what he saw Felix do, then compare the hardness to these pads.

Again Im not defending Marg, Im quite sure from his trainer's suspicious comments that he has a strong case to answer. All I ask for is consistency and less hypocrisy. Accusing Marg of blue murder while casually glossing over Shane's steroid abuse IS hypocrisy, UNLESS you have scientific evidence to prove that the increase in punch power/hardness from a performance enhancing drug is considerably less then wet gauze.

[killersheep]

Margarito and especially his trainer got off WAAAAAAY too easy....a YEAR?!?!?! This is why boxing has a hard time being taken seriously in the mainstream

He's definately getting off easy because of his last sellout fight. Not saying it's right, but boxing has it's own rules, and cash is king.