would calzaghe of ever been beaten??

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Calzaghe... top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?

'You mean he's up there with SRR, Joe Lewis, and Ali?

[JazMerkin]

Of course he could have been beaten, any fighter can be. A fairly substantial number of people felt he lost to Hopkins, who regardless of the Pavlik performance, is not what he once was. Also Joe Calzaghe is a great champion, possibly the greatest British boxer of all time, but IMO he is not within touching distance of the top 5 of all time, his achievements & general skill level just do not take him anywhere near that high. Also not sure that he can become the greatest British sportsman of all time simply for the fact that he does not have the mass appeal or recognition that a Bobby Moore or Charlton have

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Calzaghe is certainly a better sportsman than any footballers from Britain, Calzaghe has consistantly been the best in his division for 11 years, no footballer could say they have been that.

Here is a quote from Cuss D'amato about Ali that I think fits Calzaghe also.

"Any fighter who fought Muhammad Ali was intimidated by him.

You see, Ali's secret weapon was a tremendous will to win, an ability to take his own fear and project it as an irresistable force, which immediately tended to inhibit the ability of his opponent to execute what he knew."

[Taeth]

I honestly think Calzaghe would have either run into a huge puncher because his chin isn't super amazing, its really good, but Kessler hurt him several times.

OR

Chad Dawson would have beat him. Chad has that same will to win, is faster, bigger, and goes to the body unlike anybody else who fought Calzaghe. I think he is the first guy who could match Calzaghe in every department, I think even though it was extremely close he stayed in there with a very tough, very high output Glen Johnson who walks through anything.

Which brings me to another guy I've always felt would beat Calazaghe, and thats Glen Johnson, I think he has a way better chin, he would back Calzaghe up and break his will because nobody else has ever matched Joe's stamina and Glen would, I see JOe winning this more often than not, but I think Glen could find a way if he was having a hot night.

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I honestly think Calzaghe would have either run into a huge puncher because his chin isn't super amazing, its really good, but Kessler hurt him several times.

Show us a clip where Joe is stumbling, reeling, holding for dear life or putting the earmuffs on against Kessler, he was never hurt, sure he felt some power but not hurt.

[Drago]

if calzaghe wanted he could get to 60 fights undefeated! just that no one out there

chad dawson aint proven shit, & no one in britain knows who the hell he is
hopkins - pointless already beaten him & hopkins didnt wanna fight he just wanted to moan & cheat in first meeting
RJJ already beat him sensless
Glen Johnson oh please
kelly pavlik ha ha ha
jermain taylor - calzaghe would deal with him easier than any of the above
carl froch - maybe to shut froch mouth up

so no he would never of been beaten, he's got balls, he's aggressive, and he never quits

[Taeth]

if calzaghe wanted he could get to 60 fights undefeated! just that no one out there

chad dawson aint proven shit, & no one in britain knows who the hell he is
hopkins - pointless already beaten him & hopkins didnt wanna fight he just wanted to moan & cheat in first meeting
RJJ already beat him sensless
Glen Johnson oh please
kelly pavlik ha ha ha
jermain taylor - calzaghe would deal with him easier than any of the above
carl froch - maybe to shut froch mouth up

so no he would never of been beaten, he's got balls, he's aggressive, and he never quits

If people don't know who Chad Dawson is then how do they know how good he is? How is beating Adamek, Tarver, and Harding soundly not proving yourself? Its more than Calzaghe had done up until he fought Hopkins.

[C.J.Rock]

if calzaghe wanted he could get to 60 fights undefeated! just that no one out there

chad dawson aint proven shit, & no one in britain knows who the hell he is
hopkins - pointless already beaten him & hopkins didnt wanna fight he just wanted to moan & cheat in first meeting
RJJ already beat him sensless
Glen Johnson oh please
kelly pavlik ha ha ha
jermain taylor - calzaghe would deal with him easier than any of the above
carl froch - maybe to shut froch mouth up

so no he would never of been beaten, he's got balls, he's aggressive, and he never quits

Hopkins ,Darius M to name just two who'd beat him. Calzaghe avoided too many good fighters BTW your sig of the Winston Churchill speech suits Joe in a way When he made it Winston, The Royal family & The crown jewels were packed and ready to hight tail it to Canada should the germans invade. All mouth little substance

[Taeth]

I honestly think Calzaghe would have either run into a huge puncher because his chin isn't super amazing, its really good, but Kessler hurt him several times.

Show us a clip where Joe is stumbling, reeling, holding for dear life or putting the earmuffs on against Kessler, he was never hurt, sure he felt some power but not hurt.

Just off the top of my head, I think it was the fourth round Kessler lands a right uppercut that hurts Joe.

You don't have to be stumbling around or reeling to be hurt, but he definitely lost his balance point at the moment, and it happened after that as well a few times.

I'm not showing you a clip go watch the fight again you lazy bastard.

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Just off the top of my head, I think it was the fourth round Kessler lands a right uppercut that hurts Joe.

You don't have to be stumbling around or reeling to be hurt, but he definitely lost his balance point at the moment, and it happened after that as well a few times.

I'm not showing you a clip go watch the fight again you lazy bastard.

Well, prove me wrong because until you do, I know im right, Joe didnt faulter at all during that fight, he did take some big shots, nice clean shots as well and just shrugged them off to keep on working

Unless you can post a clip of him being "hurt" in the Kessler fight, shut up

[SEANIE]

Calzaghe... top 5 p4p all time greatest champions?

'You mean he's up there with SRR, Joe Lewis, and Ali?

SRR only held the middleweight title 5 times because he kept losing and most of Louis's title defences were against bums and Calzaghe never got kayoed before he won the title like Louis did.

He beat everyone he faced.