When a ref says "TEN!"

[Myk_Myk]

I'm not sure if it varies from state to state, but I think ultimately the ref has a lot of discretion as to what he wants to do as far as when the fight is actually over. The odd thing is that I've never before seen a ref wave off a fight-which it looks like he did in this fight-and then change his mind like the case the other night.

However, apparently a ref does have the prerogative to change his mind. I remember on FNF or WNF when Anthony Bonsante played opossum and the ref waved it off. Even though Bonsante jumped up after a 6 count and argued vehemently that his was fine, the ref didn't change his mind. Teddy kept saying that if the ref wanted to he could of retracted the waving off, and in light of Bonsante's obviously clear state, allowed the fight to continue. When they interviewed the ref later, he admitted that if he indeed could of chosen to change his mind and allow the fight to continue.

I've seen many times where it appeared that the ref was second guessing their decision to wave off a fight, but as I said I've never before seen a reversal. Even after that FNF incident, I always wondered if it was really legal. I still wonder as in this case there's the added controversy over whether Cintron was up at ten, and did or did not the ref wave it off?

[ClubberLang]

I'm not sure if it varies from state to state, but I think ultimately the ref has a lot of discretion as to what he wants to do as far as when the fight is actually over. The odd thing is that I've never before seen a ref wave off a fight-which it looks like he did in this fight-and then change his mind like the case the other night.

One thing I wondered is that maybe the ref didn't intend his hand gesture to be taken as the end of the fight, but an indication that the round was over and Martinez couldn't get anymore shots off. Most of the time when a ref waves off a fight, he'll demonstratively wag his arm back and forth. In this case, the ref only stuck his hand in the air and made no verbal signal that he was ending the fight. So, I guess it's possible he just meant to indicate the round was over. Who knows, though. Either way, Martinez should have gotten the win.

[Myk_Myk]

Yeah, when it's definitely over the ref usually waves both hands in a crossing inside to outside wave in front of the losing fighter. In this case he didn't really do that. Unfortunately, Cintron got a lot of extra time to recover do to his and his corners antics.