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    Default Re: ICB Where did you learn to play chess mate?

    Adolf Albin vs Rudolf SpielmannVienna 1914 · Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Italian Four Knights Variation (C50) · 0-1
    Esteban Canal vs Paul F JohnerKarlsbad 1929 · Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Canal Variation (C50) · 1-0


    Okay. Qxf6 is canal variation of the giuoco piano.

    It doesnt mean however that the computer made a wrong move when it it made gxf6.

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    Default Re: ICB Where did you learn to play chess mate?

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Adolf Albin vs Rudolf SpielmannVienna 1914 · Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Italian Four Knights Variation (C50) · 0-1
    Esteban Canal vs Paul F JohnerKarlsbad 1929 · Italian Game: Giuoco Pianissimo. Canal Variation (C50) · 1-0


    Okay. Qxf6 is canal variation of the giuoco piano.

    It doesnt mean however that the computer made a wrong move when it it made gxf6.

    It didn't blunder but it made an anti positional objectively weaker move, if that was not the case then gxf6 would be another line in that opening but it simply is not.

    It would be like white playing 1.e4 1.e5 2.d4 and black responding with d6, just not a good move and no GM would play it. Why deliberately and permanently weaken your kingside when you have a perfectly safe and non weakening way to take the piece?

    Anyway its my belief that in the current position between me and CGM white is clearly better and black is fighting just to save the game imo.

    Once the center is opened up Black's king is vulnurable everywhere which will probably force him to make exchanges to ward of attack and once the pieces are off it's a winning game for white in the endgame. If you take off the pieces, and take off black's e and f6 pawns along with white's d3 and d4 pawns its impossible to argue that white isn't clearly better.

    Black will have weak pawns on d6 f6 and h5, 4 pawn islands to whites 3.

    He needs to try and drum up on serious counterplay but I don't see how he can go about it.

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    Default Re: ICB Where did you learn to play chess mate?

    Just for your information bro,

    Skalli(MRC) vs Leko (HUN) Giuoco Piano (C54)

    Leko won playing black with 9. Bxf6 gxf6 (World Chess Olympiad, Moscow Russia)

    Leko is a superGM.

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    Default Re: ICB Where did you learn to play chess mate?

    I wouldn't mind playing a game of chess, I need to get my brain into gear again for uni, so I signed up for a yahoo account. If anyone wants a game just send me a PM
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    Default Re: ICB Where did you learn to play chess mate?

    Quote Originally Posted by brucelee View Post
    Just for your information bro,

    Skalli(MRC) vs Leko (HUN) Giuoco Piano (C54)

    Leko won playing black with 9. Bxf6 gxf6 (World Chess Olympiad, Moscow Russia)

    Leko is a superGM.
    An entirely different position Bruce, and here Leko was playing a mainline, and one I've used myself and won.

    The differences here are that firstly black has already castled, this is critical as now the king can go h8 where it will be completely safe as the white darksquared bishop has already gone. Secondly castling means the rooks are already connected and can be doubled along the g file. Thirdly black has brought his b8 knight over to the kingside as well and has the makings of a strong attack.

    This is entirely different, none of these advantages were present in your game against Kasparov.

    Compare Leko's position after move 9 with Kasparov's against you on move 9. They are world's apart. Leko's king is safe with Kh8 being a secure home, his rooks can come to the g file if necessary. In the event the knight exchange means obviously the king won't go to h8 in this particular game but you can see the idea.

    In the Leko game he played it correctly and black is marginally better already by move 10.

    No move is the same in every game you have to evaluate the differences.

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