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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Notice how short Hatton's arms are...
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    They are very short, but no shorter than usual.

    The reach will not be a factor in this fight IMO, Hatton always looks to close the gap. And with some sensible use of the jab Hatton will be able to mix up his attacks and keep Pac guessing.

    I seriously think some people are overlooking Hattons speed, strength, skills, chin and sheer tenacity.

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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Notice how short Hatton's arms are...
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    They are very short, but no shorter than usual.

    The reach will not be a factor in this fight IMO, Hatton always looks to close the gap. And with some sensible use of the jab Hatton will be able to mix up his attacks and keep Pac guessing.

    I seriously think some people are overlooking Hattons speed, strength, skills, chin and sheer tenacity.
    Looking at the picture, Hatton's arms look short and his shoulder very wide... Wide target means easier to hit...

    Size is just even and speed is an advantage for PAC... How can Hatton bully PAC if he don't have the size/reach/range to push him and he don't have the speed to corner PAC??

    And you're right PAC will avoid, evade or counter any intention of Hatton to back him up to the ropes...
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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
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    Notice how short Hatton's arms are...
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    They are very short, but no shorter than usual.

    The reach will not be a factor in this fight IMO, Hatton always looks to close the gap. And with some sensible use of the jab Hatton will be able to mix up his attacks and keep Pac guessing.

    I seriously think some people are overlooking Hattons speed, strength, skills, chin and sheer tenacity.
    Looking at the picture, Hatton's arms look short and his shoulder very wide... Wide target means easier to hit...

    Size is just even and speed is an advantage for PAC... How can Hatton bully PAC if he don't have the size/reach/range to push him and he don't have the speed to corner PAC??

    And you're right PAC will avoid, evade or counter any intention of Hatton to back him up to the ropes...
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    It's not quite as simple as you like to paint it. You always seem to operate in either/or terms. In fact, your intial statement confounds me a little.

    If you mean by height they are even then I might be inclined to agree with you. But in terms of build, are they bollocks equal. Hatton is the stronger, bigger man. He has been at this weight for years and is a natural JWW, he has twice fought at WW. Pac has had just a few fights ouside of 130 pounds. As you admit Hatton is a margin wider, he is a bigger man. In terms of speed Pac has a handspeed advantage. But Hatton is no slouch in that department. My only concern is that Hatton should reign in those leaping hooks somewhat and use the jab more to work his way in. Pac is a little faster, but Hatton throws harder and more meaningful blows. Hatton can bully Pac because you are paying scant regard to Hattons footwork, which is exceptional. It is not easy to keep Hatton at a distance. Not even Mayweather could do it without Cortez. Hatton is on you in a flash, and once you are smothered he will bully you. Hatton is excellent at cutting off the angles and getting you where he wants and Pac will be no different here. Then that "wide" body will be pushing and those "little" arms will be working and all of a sudden it isnt so funny.

    Hatton will land, and that little pixie won't be able to run forever. He will back Pac up, hurt him, and his back will touch those ropes. And eventually he will start to linger there longer than he wants. Of course, I could be totally wrong. But then again, so could you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Hatton is the stronger, bigger man. He has been at this weight for years and is a natural JWW, he has twice fought at WW. Pac has had just a few fights ouside of 130 pounds. As you admit Hatton is a margin wider, he is a bigger man.

    - You can't really rely on Hatton as the "bigger" man. Hoya was expected as the bigger man but what comes out, Hoya just the taller man compared to PAC on fight night...

    In terms of speed Pac has a handspeed advantage. But Hatton is no slouch in that department. My only concern is that Hatton should reign in those leaping hooks somewhat and use the jab more to work his way in. Pac is a little faster, but Hatton throws harder and more meaningful blows.

    - "Leaping hooks" that's very dangerous if PAC catches him on air... Regarding jabs, 25" arm length versus 20" arm length, go figure...

    Hatton can bully Pac because you are paying scant regard to Hattons footwork, which is exceptional. It is not easy to keep Hatton at a distance. Not even Mayweather could do it without Cortez. Hatton is on you in a flash, and once you are smothered he will bully you. Hatton is excellent at cutting off the angles and getting you where he wants and Pac will be no different here.

    - PBF just allowed Hatton to push him to the ropes coz PBF is confident that he has excellent defense at close quarters... I believe PAC won't allow Hatton to do it on him...

    Then that "wide" body will be pushing and those "little" arms will be working and all of a sudden it isnt so funny.

    - I agree, it's not funny IF (and only IF) Hatton can "hug and punch" PAC at the ropes..

    Hatton will land, and that little pixie won't be able to run forever. He will back Pac up, hurt him, and his back will touch those ropes. And eventually he will start to linger there longer than he wants.

    - The above only happens if PAC can't punish Hatton's face earlier... multiple cuts with Hatton's eyes closing due to the heavy swelling... Hatton's skin is so white and the sight of crimson red blood all over his face is so gory to watch...


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    Default Re: Do you think PAC will inflict the worst beating ever on Hatton?

    Quote Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by miles View Post
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    Hatton is the stronger, bigger man. He has been at this weight for years and is a natural JWW, he has twice fought at WW. Pac has had just a few fights ouside of 130 pounds. As you admit Hatton is a margin wider, he is a bigger man.

    - You can't really rely on Hatton as the "bigger" man. Hoya was expected as the bigger man but what comes out, Hoya just the taller man compared to PAC on fight night...

    In terms of speed Pac has a handspeed advantage. But Hatton is no slouch in that department. My only concern is that Hatton should reign in those leaping hooks somewhat and use the jab more to work his way in. Pac is a little faster, but Hatton throws harder and more meaningful blows.

    - "Leaping hooks" that's very dangerous if PAC catches him on air... Regarding jabs, 25" arm length versus 20" arm length, go figure...

    Hatton can bully Pac because you are paying scant regard to Hattons footwork, which is exceptional. It is not easy to keep Hatton at a distance. Not even Mayweather could do it without Cortez. Hatton is on you in a flash, and once you are smothered he will bully you. Hatton is excellent at cutting off the angles and getting you where he wants and Pac will be no different here.

    - PBF just allowed Hatton to push him to the ropes coz PBF is confident that he has excellent defense at close quarters... I believe PAC won't allow Hatton to do it on him...

    Then that "wide" body will be pushing and those "little" arms will be working and all of a sudden it isnt so funny.

    - I agree, it's not funny IF (and only IF) Hatton can "hug and punch" PAC at the ropes..

    Hatton will land, and that little pixie won't be able to run forever. He will back Pac up, hurt him, and his back will touch those ropes. And eventually he will start to linger there longer than he wants.

    - The above only happens if PAC can't punish Hatton's face earlier... multiple cuts with Hatton's eyes closing due to the heavy swelling... Hatton's skin is so white and the sight of crimson red blood all over his face is so gory to watch...

    1) Different fight and a different opponent. Hatton is still in his prime and fighting at his optimum weight. It's safe to say that Oscar wasn't prime and certainly not at his optimum weight. Hatton still has the size advantage IMO.

    2) We agree. Too many leaping hooks = not such a bright idea. Hatton cannot afford to get too sloppy. Pac is not Maussa.

    3) The backing up aspect is an intriguing one. Hatton doesn't like to step back. Pac can do that but as has been noted elsewhere, he rarely let's you get him onto the ropes. I like to think Hatton can bull him there more than you think, but that is just opinion.

    4) I don't want to see a hugfest either, but I do want to see Hatton given the opportunity to work on the inside once he gets there. I cannot imagine Pac having the strength to get into too much of that with Hatton.

    5) Hatton does cut easily, that is true. One of my main worries TBH. I don't think Manny can stop Hatton except for cuts.

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