harrison after haye

[El Kabong]

OK so there are no good challengers (I disagree of course but I'll humor you) so boxing should sacrifice the career of an up and coming fighter just so we could have the chance (because there are no sure bets) at an exciting fight?

All the people who don't want Haye to fight Wlad yet don't hate David Haye (just his fans ) they just want Haye to build a resume at heavyweight before he ruins his career...Holyfield had 6 fights at heavyweight before getting a shot at the title and he fought top level fighters (the type that David Haye seems to be avoiding).

Holyfield fought: James Tillis, Pinklon Thomas, Michael Dokes, Adilson Rodrigues, Alex Stewart (undefeated at the time), and Seamus McDonugh.

People want Haye to have something on his record that says he is a good heavyweight before he gets a title shot. I want Haye to do well in the division because Wladimir does need a rival in the division, it would be good for boxing.

I just want Wladimir to get the full respect for whipping Haye's ass and it WILL happen.

[AdamGB]

I think haye needs a few more fights too... I just take issue with you saying that haye 'deserves' to fight a guy who just lost to a tubby old cabbie and has came up short every time he's even tried to remotely step it up.

You've just contradicted your self... giving us the resume of everybody who Holyfield fought and beat enroute to the title ex Champs... top ten fighters... undefeated fighters etc... and then you're saying that haye DESERVES Fraudley Harrison?!?!... He should be fighting the likes of Sam Peter etc... but Audley Harrison? Give them man some respect for fucks sake

But like I keep saying Haye isn't Holyfield and the Heavyweight division isn't the same as it was decades ago... It's fairly Irrelevant to compare them.

[El Kabong]

I said Haye deserved Audley because they both think so highly of themselves yet neither has done anything at the heavyweight division.

If I was David Haye's manager and I wanted to prepare him to fight Wladimir Klitschko I would make matches to build confidence but also to expose Haye to a similar style that Wlad uses AND similar size fighters as Wladimir.

The guys who I think fit in these categories are as follows:

Andrew Golota - an older fighter, good basic skills, not much heart, doesn't take punches well, and fights in an upright eastern european style....technically strong yet seemingly easy to KO

Oleg Maskaev - same as Golota only Oleg has heart and he may not be as good technically.

Luan Krasniqi - a lesser version of Maskaev and Golota

Sergei Lyakahovich - a less dangerous version of the previously mentioned eastern european fighters

Jameel McCline - a huge guy, decent defense, not big on power (bar the Sam Peter fight), and usually timid when facing someone who can hurt him.

Alexander Dimitrenko - he's big, he's undefeated, he's trained by Wladimir's old trainer.....he's PERFECT to test how Haye would do vs Wladimir.

Alexander Povetkin - undefeated, top rate technical skills, questionable chin and stamina and IMO his power is overrated

Tony Thompson - big guy, good defense, only got KO'd once (by Wlad) good jab, and can outbox anyone and drag them into the later rounds a very tough test for anyone....you can't gun to KO him early because he has a good chin and good defense and he has decent stamina although it is probably because his workrate is low, though he does enough to win rounds.

Ray Austin - big, falls alseep on defense, does everything OK, not spectacular in any one area.

There are guys out there who David Haye could fight and beat and create a REAL buzz around him. And although the majority of the guys I listed are beyond the time where they will compete for titles they are still good measuring sticks and would provide solid competition for David Haye

[smashup]

NO WAY this would even be concieved by Haye.
Just Fraudley trying to get a payday.
Won't Happen.

[Drago]

as the crusierweight title is only a few years old,
this as stated could be part reason why in general crusiers have not been great at heavyweight but also crusier is not a glamorous division i am sure many fighters should be fighting in that divison but the money is at heavy so fighters want to fight in that division & stay clear of crusierweight.

does haye deserve a shot at heavy title, in my opinion no but i wanna see the fight & so do many fans & that makes sense.

[ross]

the money is at heavy so fighters want to fight in that division & stay clear of crusierweight.

I dont believe that.

The money is where the entertainers and ticket sellers are at.

Look at Hasmed at featherweight, he was earning about 4 or 5 million £ a fight over ten years ago, no one is earning that now!!

If people get excited by a particular fighter and are willing to watch em fight, they will pay for it, unfortunately there isnt anyone other than Hatton today that can sell fights like that.

[Drago]

the money is at heavy so fighters want to fight in that division & stay clear of crusierweight.

I dont believe that.

The money is where the entertainers and ticket sellers are at.

Look at Hasmed at featherweight, he was earning about 4 or 5 million £ a fight over ten years ago, no one is earning that now!!

If people get excited by a particular fighter and are willing to watch em fight, they will pay for it, unfortunately there isnt anyone other than Hatton today that can sell fights like that.

haye makes more money as succesfull heavy than succesfull crusier wont he?