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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    How did you expect me to train Andrew? He makes 200 to 400 a fight,was I supposed to set up a camp for him? He's not getting any training where he is,so this was the best I could come up with.
    And it is working,wether you guys like it or not,he's more of a legit boxer then he ever was before.
    Welcome to the real world,not everybody has the luxery of a full camp,and turning down ten million for a fight.Most people in the buis have day jobs.
    But thanks to all for proving the old adage,"No good deed goes unpunished",%100 correct
    So can you train me, I have enough money for a nintendo Wii, I could practice on that
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    Quote Originally Posted by Plopeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    How did you expect me to train Andrew? He makes 200 to 400 a fight,was I supposed to set up a camp for him? He's not getting any training where he is,so this was the best I could come up with.
    And it is working,wether you guys like it or not,he's more of a legit boxer then he ever was before.
    Welcome to the real world,not everybody has the luxery of a full camp,and turning down ten million for a fight.Most people in the buis have day jobs.
    But thanks to all for proving the old adage,"No good deed goes unpunished",%100 correct
    So can you train me, I have enough money for a nintendo Wii, I could practice on that
    And you obviously have a massive porn collection,stop before you get carpal tunnel
    Hey,its a start in the training process for you

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Plopeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    How did you expect me to train Andrew? He makes 200 to 400 a fight,was I supposed to set up a camp for him? He's not getting any training where he is,so this was the best I could come up with.
    And it is working,wether you guys like it or not,he's more of a legit boxer then he ever was before.
    Welcome to the real world,not everybody has the luxery of a full camp,and turning down ten million for a fight.Most people in the buis have day jobs.
    But thanks to all for proving the old adage,"No good deed goes unpunished",%100 correct
    So can you train me, I have enough money for a nintendo Wii, I could practice on that
    And you obviously have a massive porn collection,stop before you get carpal tunnel
    Hey,its a start in the training process for you
    Thank you for the advice, but I have no porn at all on my PC or on DVD which is weird.

    I am buying a Nintendo Wii today unless you advise me this is not a training method. I will try and send you some video footage and hopefully within a week I will be ready for my pro debut
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    I know you put it up as a joke,and Ive never seen one,but the Wii might actually be helpful for focusing during shadowboxing.I mean if it works like they make it look during the commercials. I mean the thing probably doesnt work like it does in the commercials for it,but if it did,Ive heard worse ideas for training,why not use improved technology to produce improved boxers?
    Even a joke might have a grain of,"You know,that might be helpful",because in all honesty if you dont watch them like a hawk,fighters tend to let their minds wander during shadow boxing,that might actually help with focusing.
    Go fig,you had a decent idea,when you were trying to be a smart ass.
    Now somebody else try it first,because those things are expensive as hell.

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    Please can we post some nicknames for Plop , as his ring name.

    "The King of Ring Sting " Plopeater

    more please.

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    "Who needs sewage refinery plants when you have Plopeater?"

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    "cut the shit, or he'll eat it, along with your ass" PLOPEATER

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Plopeater View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    How did you expect me to train Andrew? He makes 200 to 400 a fight,was I supposed to set up a camp for him? He's not getting any training where he is,so this was the best I could come up with.
    And it is working,wether you guys like it or not,he's more of a legit boxer then he ever was before.
    Welcome to the real world,not everybody has the luxery of a full camp,and turning down ten million for a fight.Most people in the buis have day jobs.
    But thanks to all for proving the old adage,"No good deed goes unpunished",%100 correct
    So can you train me, I have enough money for a nintendo Wii, I could practice on that
    And you obviously have a massive porn collection,stop before you get carpal tunnel
    Hey,its a start in the training process for you
    he will have strong forearms and wrists

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    Quote Originally Posted by Howlin Mad Missy View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Plopeater View Post

    So can you train me, I have enough money for a nintendo Wii, I could practice on that
    And you obviously have a massive porn collection,stop before you get carpal tunnel
    Hey,its a start in the training process for you
    he will have strong forearms and wrists

    one wrist.

    Let's not get carried away

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    Ok im a first time poster on here........now i wasnt awear of this board untill a good friend of mine put me onto it.
    Now I know Paul well from another punk forum he used to post alot on and now posts every so often like me.Now when weve had boxing threads on there we have sometimes clashed on our opinions of how a fight has been scored etc etc but I always respected you as a trainer being one myself and a former top amateur boxer but after reading the thread to do with your wifes recent fight and the wanting o kill the oppenent comment(disgracefull) and then watching "kid thunders" video on this thread I had to join out of disguest!
    I like you paul but to be honest what you said on your wifes thread and then how KT fought was a disgrace and I dont mean that to attack him....quite honestly how some people on here have attacked and taken the piss out of KT I find a disgrace in itself because anyone that ALONE steps into a ring deserves ALOT of respect and most of the people that are coming with that stuff are just arm chair idiots!!
    So because of this I felt I had to join up alone just to help KT (although I love disguss boxing)....quite honestly if I was KT's trainer I wouldnt have him fight for six months because again and I dont mean this as an attack on him because any bad showings by a boxer or serious serious mistakes like of which KT is doing are not his fault but his trainers!
    Now as I said if I was KT's trainer I wouldnt have him fight for six months because to be honest....hes not ready to fight infact if he came in to my gym off the street I wouldnt have him even spar yet!

    In boxing the basics are the most important things and also not easy to get right you get that right then you have a good platform to work on....when I watched that fight you had a low guard but no real head movement(at least not tidy tight head movement),you should be punching from your chin instead it was coming from your chest....your foot work was all over the place ie if your moving to the right your right foot moves first you were using your leading left foot and crossing your feet making you off balance,your punches were wild and swinging(to be honest you fought like a street fighter not a boxer) and last but not least I only saw you land with one scoring jab....for the first round and a half you didnt throw one jab AT ALL.
    The Jab is THE MOST important punch in boxing and should be used by far the most its the only versatile punch in boxing that can be used to attack and defend with as well as being a great point scorer and combination opener and finisher(all combinations should try and finished as well as start on a jab) towards the end of the fight when you did throw a few were well out of range and there was no real intent to land with them.

    Again I dont post this to attack to Kid Thunder but more an attack at Paul because he should of fixed these things at the very least(and there are loads more things you could work on) before even thinking of putting you in the ring!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Heart Full Of Napalm View Post
    Ok im a first time poster on here........now i wasnt awear of this board untill a good friend of mine put me onto it.
    Now I know Paul well from another punk forum he used to post alot on and now posts every so often like me.Now when weve had boxing threads on there we have sometimes clashed on our opinions of how a fight has been scored etc etc but I always respected you as a trainer being one myself and a former top amateur boxer but after reading the thread to do with your wifes recent fight and the wanting o kill the oppenent comment(disgracefull) and then watching "kid thunders" video on this thread I had to join out of disguest!
    I like you paul but to be honest what you said on your wifes thread and then how KT fought was a disgrace and I dont mean that to attack him....quite honestly how some people on here have attacked and taken the piss out of KT I find a disgrace in itself because anyone that ALONE steps into a ring deserves ALOT of respect and most of the people that are coming with that stuff are just arm chair idiots!!
    So because of this I felt I had to join up alone just to help KT (although I love disguss boxing)....quite honestly if I was KT's trainer I wouldnt have him fight for six months because again and I dont mean this as an attack on him because any bad showings by a boxer or serious serious mistakes like of which KT is doing are not his fault but his trainers!
    Now as I said if I was KT's trainer I wouldnt have him fight for six months because to be honest....hes not ready to fight infact if he came in to my gym off the street I wouldnt have him even spar yet!

    In boxing the basics are the most important things and also not easy to get right you get that right then you have a good platform to work on....when I watched that fight you had a low guard but no real head movement(at least not tidy tight head movement),you should be punching from your chin instead it was coming from your chest....your foot work was all over the place ie if your moving to the right your right foot moves first you were using your leading left foot and crossing your feet making you off balance,your punches were wild and swinging(to be honest you fought like a street fighter not a boxer) and last but not least I only saw you land with one scoring jab....for the first round and a half you didnt throw one jab AT ALL.
    The Jab is THE MOST important punch in boxing and should be used by far the most its the only versatile punch in boxing that can be used to attack and defend with as well as being a great point scorer and combination opener and finisher(all combinations should try and finished as well as start on a jab) towards the end of the fight when you did throw a few were well out of range and there was no real intent to land with them.

    Again I dont post this to attack to Kid Thunder but more an attack at Paul because he should of fixed these things at the very least(and there are loads more things you could work on) before even thinking of putting you in the ring!
    Ben he did fine against McClure,and yes Ive got him using his jab and his cross.
    Ben here,you go,he didnt have a trainer before I took him on,so he did 16 fights with ingrained bad habits.
    He went the distance with McClure and actually looked like a boxer,not a street thug in there,and in my opinion won the fight pretty handily no matter what the judge who wasnt in his seat for a round and a half says.
    I dont have him in my gym I train him remotely,but when I got him he was sauna suiting to make weight and his entire game plan was haymakers,hope and attitude.
    Which is not how he fights now
    Now you could have contacted me privately,and asked for the backstory,you could have asked me about how boxing operates in the states,you didnt.
    Last edited by Tilt A Whirl; 03-26-2009 at 04:36 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl View Post
    Quote Originally Posted by Heart Full Of Napalm View Post
    Ok im a first time poster on here........now i wasnt awear of this board untill a good friend of mine put me onto it.
    Now I know Paul well from another punk forum he used to post alot on and now posts every so often like me.Now when weve had boxing threads on there we have sometimes clashed on our opinions of how a fight has been scored etc etc but I always respected you as a trainer being one myself and a former top amateur boxer but after reading the thread to do with your wifes recent fight and the wanting o kill the oppenent comment(disgracefull) and then watching "kid thunders" video on this thread I had to join out of disguest!
    I like you paul but to be honest what you said on your wifes thread and then how KT fought was a disgrace and I dont mean that to attack him....quite honestly how some people on here have attacked and taken the piss out of KT I find a disgrace in itself because anyone that ALONE steps into a ring deserves ALOT of respect and most of the people that are coming with that stuff are just arm chair idiots!!
    So because of this I felt I had to join up alone just to help KT (although I love disguss boxing)....quite honestly if I was KT's trainer I wouldnt have him fight for six months because again and I dont mean this as an attack on him because any bad showings by a boxer or serious serious mistakes like of which KT is doing are not his fault but his trainers!
    Now as I said if I was KT's trainer I wouldnt have him fight for six months because to be honest....hes not ready to fight infact if he came in to my gym off the street I wouldnt have him even spar yet!

    In boxing the basics are the most important things and also not easy to get right you get that right then you have a good platform to work on....when I watched that fight you had a low guard but no real head movement(at least not tidy tight head movement),you should be punching from your chin instead it was coming from your chest....your foot work was all over the place ie if your moving to the right your right foot moves first you were using your leading left foot and crossing your feet making you off balance,your punches were wild and swinging(to be honest you fought like a street fighter not a boxer) and last but not least I only saw you land with one scoring jab....for the first round and a half you didnt throw one jab AT ALL.
    The Jab is THE MOST important punch in boxing and should be used by far the most its the only versatile punch in boxing that can be used to attack and defend with as well as being a great point scorer and combination opener and finisher(all combinations should try and finished as well as start on a jab) towards the end of the fight when you did throw a few were well out of range and there was no real intent to land with them.

    Again I dont post this to attack to Kid Thunder but more an attack at Paul because he should of fixed these things at the very least(and there are loads more things you could work on) before even thinking of putting you in the ring!
    Ben he did fine against McClure,and yes Ive got him using his jab and his cross.
    Ben here,you go,he didnt have a trainer before I took him on,so he did 16 fights with ingrained bad habits.
    He went the distance with McClure and actually looked like a boxer,not a street thug in there,and in my opinion won the fight pretty handily no matter what the judge who wasnt in his seat for a round and a half says.
    I dont have him in my gym I train him remotely,but when I got him he was sauna suiting to make weight and his entire game plan was haymakers,hope and attitude.
    Which is not how he fights now
    Now you could have contacted me privately,and asked for the backstory,you could have asked me about how boxing operates in the states,you didnt.
    First off I have to apologise because my spelling and grammer was terrible in the last post lol....and second to say that although I ripped on you rev in that last post I actually meant to and forgot to put that even though I thought he fought badly and had Allllllllllllooooooooooooootttttttttttttt to work on I actually thought he won the fight out of sheer grit,higher work rate and the fact that he was alot more aggressive,so yeah I thought he should of won the fight!
    But Rev to say that he fought like a boxer is unbelievable...he fought like a street fighter plain and simple.Now I understand that he has six kids like you said to me in a private message and that he works at a wal mart so cant afford not to be fighting.....and I understand that coming from someone who struggles constantly with money and finding enough to eat as well as pay the bills and do my bands.But there are basic things that should of been worked on before that fight...how long were you working with him before this fight??
    And what do you mean by how boxing operates in the states

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