Why so much hate for Kahn (and Mundine)?

[holmcall]

Diaz done? Why because of the loss to JMM?...Kahn is no JMM...Not Even close to being a JM.......

The Diaz that hunted Marquez down for 5+ rounds is as dangerous as they come....Kahns chin would crush up like a recyclable can lets be serious...

He took a beat down from Campbell and got hit was some serious stuff from Katsidis. Then he imploded against JMM. That adds up to a lot of ring wear and tear for me. Moreover, once he gets cut, he can't deal with it and stops the in-coming pressure. I believe (and it's only my point of view) that Juan had peaked and is on the downside. Kahn is on the upside. When those two elevators meet, I always go for the guy moving North. All in my opinion, of course, because these exchanges are subjective points of view.

I really couldn't disagree more. Campbell beat him, no doubt, but it was a close fight early on and it (much like the JMM fight) has the potential to be one of those losses in which a young fighter learns and benefits more from it than he would a victory. Katsidis couldn't land anything of significance on Diaz, he was totally outclassed and the judge who scored the fight for the Aussie should have been immediately dragged behind the arena and summarily executed.

Diaz is 25 years old, and with Marquez and Campbell moving up is still the best lightweight in the world. He gave Marquez all kind of problems in their fight, most people had him sweeping the early rounds and he clearly hurt Marquez a couple of times. That's the same Marquez who is widely considered on par with the best fighter in the world.

I'm not even a huge Diaz fan, I was cheering against him in each of his last three fights (though he really won me over with his performance against Marquez).

I geniunely believe that if he had serious power he would one day be a fixture in the top 5 p4p.

To say he is on the slide is ridiuclous, he's been beating by one great fighter (Who Campbell?) and stopped by one all time great fighter (who he was neck and neck with until the stoppage). Khan, who I like, has been badly hurt numerous times and was brutally knocked out (it was a one-puncher. Clean but nothing particularly brutal about it) against a mediocre but undefeated fighter with overrated power( KO% 85.71). Juan Diaz would absolutely ruin Khan.

Uh Oh. What kind of odd$ would you give me on Kahn-Diaz?

[CFH]

He took a beat down from Campbell and got hit was some serious stuff from Katsidis. Then he imploded against JMM. That adds up to a lot of ring wear and tear for me. Moreover, once he gets cut, he can't deal with it and stops the in-coming pressure. I believe (and it's only my point of view) that Juan had peaked and is on the downside. Kahn is on the upside. When those two elevators meet, I always go for the guy moving North. All in my opinion, of course, because these exchanges are subjective points of view.

I really couldn't disagree more. Campbell beat him, no doubt, but it was a close fight early on and it (much like the JMM fight) has the potential to be one of those losses in which a young fighter learns and benefits more from it than he would a victory. Katsidis couldn't land anything of significance on Diaz, he was totally outclassed and the judge who scored the fight for the Aussie should have been immediately dragged behind the arena and summarily executed.

Diaz is 25 years old, and with Marquez and Campbell moving up is still the best lightweight in the world. He gave Marquez all kind of problems in their fight, most people had him sweeping the early rounds and he clearly hurt Marquez a couple of times. That's the same Marquez who is widely considered on par with the best fighter in the world.

I'm not even a huge Diaz fan, I was cheering against him in each of his last three fights (though he really won me over with his performance against Marquez).

I geniunely believe that if he had serious power he would one day be a fixture in the top 5 p4p.

To say he is on the slide is ridiuclous, he's been beating by one great fighter (Who Campbell?) and stopped by one all time great fighter (who he was neck and neck with until the stoppage). Khan, who I like, has been badly hurt numerous times and was brutally knocked out (it was a one-puncher. Clean but nothing particularly brutal about it) against a mediocre but undefeated fighter with overrated power( KO% 85.71). Juan Diaz would absolutely ruin Khan.

Uh Oh. What kind of odd$ would you give me on Kahn-Diaz?

I don't have time right now to use fancy colors to make my points so I'll just address them in point form.

-I think Campbell is a great fighter, he just didn't get his due until very late in his career. However, I can understand someone who would say he's a very good fighter and not a great one. That's fine, he's still 10x better than anyone Khan has ever faced.

-I thought the Prescott KO was pretty bad for Khan, he was badly hurt. "Brutal" may been a bit of hyperbole, but it was a bad knock out.

-Regardless of Prescotts KO% (which is far from uncommon with Colombia fighters), in his last fight he landed many flush shots against a gimme opponent who had been knocked out four times previously.

[Gandalf]

I do dislike Khan now. Having read Khan's comments about the fight, he shows himself as a jumped up, gobby little shit and totally lacking in any class. Apparently he would have "brutally" knocked out Barerra within 2 or 3 rounds! He was given a gift scalp, he probably doesn't see that though. Prick!!

[holmcall]

I do dislike Khan now. Having read Khan's comments about the fight, he shows himself as a jumped up, gobby little shit and totally lacking in any class. Apparently he would have "brutally" knocked out Barerra within 2 or 3 rounds! He was given a gift scalp, he probably doesn't see that though. Prick!!

Any links to his nasty behavior? I know what gobshit means but what does GOBBY" mean?

[Gandalf]

I do dislike Khan now. Having read Khan's comments about the fight, he shows himself as a jumped up, gobby little shit and totally lacking in any class. Apparently he would have "brutally" knocked out Barerra within 2 or 3 rounds! He was given a gift scalp, he probably doesn't see that though. Prick!!

Any links to his nasty behavior? I know what gobshit means but what does GOBBY" mean?

Gobby is someone with a big mouth. Not nasty behaviour here, but arrogant and totally missing the point that he beat someone with an axe wound to the head and who was unable to see properly.

BBC SPORT | Boxing | Khan set for title fight in 2009

[holmcall]

I do dislike Khan now. Having read Khan's comments about the fight, he shows himself as a jumped up, gobby little shit and totally lacking in any class. Apparently he would have "brutally" knocked out Barerra within 2 or 3 rounds! He was given a gift scalp, he probably doesn't see that though. Prick!!

Any links to his nasty behavior? I know what gobshit means but what does GOBBY" mean?

Gobby is someone with a big mouth. Not nasty behaviour here, but arrogant and totally missing the point that he beat someone with an axe wound to the head and who was unable to see properly.

BBC SPORT | Boxing | Khan set for title fight in 2009

Thanks for that.

[JazMerkin]

Any links to his nasty behavior? I know what gobshit means but what does GOBBY" mean?

Gobby is someone with a big mouth. Not nasty behaviour here, but arrogant and totally missing the point that he beat someone with an axe wound to the head and who was unable to see properly.

BBC SPORT | Boxing | Khan set for title fight in 2009

Thanks for that.

As I pointed out to Miles in a different thread, much of what they say Khan said there has been vastly misquoted. I've actually seen the press conference now, and the BBC have taken a lot of journalistic license there with Khan's words. I think how the media have covered the aftermath has been outrageous from all angles.

[holmcall]

And Your Odds Are.......?

[CFH]

And Your Odds Are.......?

No need to get condescending man, I'm just trying to have a discussion here.

As for odds, I have no idea. The closest I come to betting on sports is playing Killersheeps sportsbook. Going by that, I would probably have Khan at a 1.5 payoff or something like that, but I really have no idea.

[holmcall]

And Your Odds Are.......?

No need to get condescending man, I'm just trying to have a discussion here.

As for odds, I have no idea. The closest I come to betting on sports is playing Killersheeps sportsbook. Going by that, I would probably have Khan at a 1.5 payoff or something like that, but I really have no idea.

You misunderstood me. That was not my intent, I was only trying to keep the exchange going. Sorry.