Say what you like - Khan should never have won

[Howlin Mad Missy]

ono - if I think someone is talking bollocks I'll say so, being a mod has nothing to do with it. Take a look at other threads...I'll say as I please and other people do to, that includes talking bollocks.

The facts remain as miles has stated. It's not just my opinion on this, I read and occasionally post on several boxing forums and the majority are calling this a bullshit decision. Why pretend it's otherwise?

Should the fight have been stopped prior to the end of round 5? Yes or no? That is the only question that matters. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

[Mr140]

Well tell you the truth it doesnt matter Barrea last chance was this fight and he lost it and say all you want about how it should of gone but it did not. And now he is proably going to retire somthing should of done awhile ago. Hell i am a Evander Holyfeild fan think i like what happen to him in his last fight but it wont change anything facts is he has the lose and is to old to try to come back and do it again that is just what happens just let it go.

[ono]

ono - if I think someone is talking bollocks I'll say so, being a mod has nothing to do with it. Take a look at other threads...I'll say as I please and other people do to, that includes talking bollocks.

The facts remain as miles has stated. It's not just my opinion on this, I read and occasionally post on several boxing forums and the majority are calling this a bullshit decision. Why pretend it's otherwise?

Should the fight have been stopped prior to the end of round 5? Yes or no? That is the only question that matters. Everything else is smoke and mirrors.

It wasn't a bullshit decision. If Marco wanted the fight stopped earlier, it would have been stopped. He elected to continue on the gamble that he'd get Khan out of there. The gamble didn't pay off.

It was unsatisfactory and imo the cut looked bad enough for the fight to be stopped, but when the person who is suffering from the injury actually wants to continue you, he's either an unbelievable warrior or the cuts not as bad as it appears. I'd suggest what actually happened would be somewhere in the middle fo those two.

I believe that a cut running into the eye of a fighter would handicap him but i also believe that if Barrera was as blinded as some have suggested, Khan would have had him out of there inside 3 rounds.

I just think that you and Miles were riding a lot of blind hope on this fight and i don't understand why. You're both very intelligent posters but you both seemed to put an awful lot of faith into a fighter who had every physical dis-advantage going, coupled with the fact that he had come off the back of 2 fights against complete bums (one looks to be on Kid Thunders level) and now you both seem to have spat your dummy out because the result has gone against him. Maybe i'm just talking bollocks though

[Howlin Mad Missy]

It wasn't a bullshit decision. If Marco wanted the fight stopped earlier, it would have been stopped. He elected to continue on the gamble that he'd get Khan out of there. The gamble didn't pay off.

It was a gamble because it wasn't stopped.

It was unsatisfactory and imo the cut looked bad enough for the fight to be stopped, but when the person who is suffering from the injury actually wants to continue you, he's either an unbelievable warrior or the cuts not as bad as it appears. I'd suggest what actually happened would be somewhere in the middle fo those two.

Finally - which is the point we have been making.

99% of want to carry on. Cooke & Enzo wanted to carry because they wanted to that means they should have. I beg your pardon.

I believe that a cut running into the eye of a fighter would handicap him but i also believe that if Barrera was as blinded as some have suggested, Khan would have had him out of there inside 3 rounds.

now that is just silly. It took 11 rounds for Pac to break him down before the ref stepped in. You HONESTLY believe Khan could ko Barrera in 3 rounds? Now I know this is a wind up.

you both seem to have spat your dummy out because the result has gone against him. Maybe i'm just talking bollocks though

did you hear Khan? Did you read the newspapers? I don't like hype and I don't like lies.

[Mr140]

But Missy none of matters because at the end of the day he got the lose on his record and by the time he gets a rematch he while be older. What he should do is just call it a day he has had his time. I mean like i said before i hated what happen to Evander Holyfeild. felt he should of got that title but he didnt and i really dont think he can do much better then he did that night. Because next time he while be that much older and that much slower and everything while be against him.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

Mr. I agree up to a point but that just boils down to an attitude of, 'why bother with anything?' & I can't accept that.

[Mr140]

Maybe i said wrong but do understand what your going through. I mean after the Evander Holyfeild fight i was all mad and posting things like they should reverse the decsion WBA is full of shit which they are. But at the end of the day nothing happen and it was pretty much forgotten. But have some rep because you do stand by your fighter no matter what.

[Howlin Mad Missy]

shit. Holyfield would still probably clean up in the HW division

[ono]

It wasn't a bullshit decision. If Marco wanted the fight stopped earlier, it would have been stopped. He elected to continue on the gamble that he'd get Khan out of there. The gamble didn't pay off.

It was a gamble because it wasn't stopped.

I'm pretty sure if he told the doctor he couldn't see the fight would have been waved off by the doctor - not the fighter quitting

It was unsatisfactory and imo the cut looked bad enough for the fight to be stopped, but when the person who is suffering from the injury actually wants to continue you, he's either an unbelievable warrior or the cuts not as bad as it appears. I'd suggest what actually happened would be somewhere in the middle fo those two.

Finally - which is the point we have been making.

99% of want to carry on. Cooke & Enzo wanted to carry because they wanted to that means they should have. I beg your pardon.

Woah slow down there Missy....i never said if a fighter wants to continue he should be allowed. Barrera had a cut. He wasn't on queer street like Enzo and Cooky. I said that imo the cut was a bad one, but at the same time i didn't think Barrera needed to go into 100% warrior mode just to survive the 5 rounds. The cut was bad enough for me not to feel satisfied about the fight, but it wasn't bad enough for me to not give Khan any credit for winning the fight. A few of you were making out that Khan was in there with Stevie Wonder wearing boxing gloves.

I believe that a cut running into the eye of a fighter would handicap him but i also believe that if Barrera was as blinded as some have suggested, Khan would have had him out of there inside 3 rounds.

now that is just silly. It took 11 rounds for Pac to break him down before the ref stepped in. You HONESTLY believe Khan could ko Barrera in 3 rounds? Now I know this is a wind up.

Yeah but Pac didn't break down a 'blind' MAB. My point was, Barrera was still savvy enough and could still see enough to block and slip punches. My point was, if he was totally blind in even one eye, Khan would have had a field day.

you both seem to have spat your dummy out because the result has gone against him. Maybe i'm just talking bollocks though

did you hear Khan? Did you read the newspapers? I don't like hype and I don't like lies.

I don't read the newspapers nor do i get taken in by the sensationalist headlines. I haven't heard a single Khan interview since the fight...all i heard was after the fight he seemed pleased with his performance....like most fighters are.

It's interesting that you don't like hype and you don't like lies yet you bought into the idea that a washed up Barrera that had been fighting in a gymnasium in China even had a slight chance against a young, hungry, talented fighter holding every physical advantage possible.