Pacquiao beating Hatton...I just don't see it

[Pacdbest2]

Pac gains my respect with:
* JMM 3rd fight
* Fighting a dangerous hungry, fast and hard hitting prospect
* Fighting a veteran fighter on a winning streak not like his pattern of fighting fighters coming off a loss in their last or previous to last fight.

MAB pac 1

mab won 8 straight fights before he was dismanteld by pac nad those where against good opponents. the metal thing on mabs head and the training camp fire is no excuse.

fighting a dangerous hungry young fighter. if im a champ i wouldnt dare to fight a nobody, this is boxing and anything can happen all it takes is just one punch. you dont even have to be skilled to win all you need is one punch. that wont be good for any boxers resume, to fight top opponents then lose to a nobody.

3rd fight with jmm, i want this fight to happen ive said this before. for me jmm has pacs number. pac clearly won the first fight the second one is a toss up they need to settle it on a third fight. jmm worked hard and is worthy of a third fight.


pac has done so much for boxing, now that the heavyweight division aint the same as before. he doesnt need to gain anyones respect anymore anyway.

Amen!

[Addicted to_boxing]

Pac gains my respect with:
* JMM 3rd fight
* Fighting a dangerous hungry, fast and hard hitting prospect
* Fighting a veteran fighter on a winning streak not like his pattern of fighting fighters coming off a loss in their last or previous to last fight.

MAB pac 1

mab won 8 straight fights before he was dismanteld by pac nad those where against good opponents. the metal thing on mabs head and the training camp fire is no excuse.

fighting a dangerous hungry young fighter. if im a champ i wouldnt dare to fight a nobody, this is boxing and anything can happen all it takes is just one punch. you dont even have to be skilled to win all you need is one punch. that wont be good for any boxers resume, to fight top opponents then lose to a nobody.

3rd fight with jmm, i want this fight to happen ive said this before. for me jmm has pacs number. pac clearly won the first fight the second one is a toss up they need to settle it on a third fight. jmm worked hard and is worthy of a third fight.


pac has done so much for boxing, now that the heavyweight division aint the same as before. he doesnt need to gain anyones respect anymore anyway.

Amen!

(Wikipedia) Nutthuger see Pacdbest2 best example!
The heavyweight division has been dormant for many years before Pac. Now you want to give Pac the credit for holding up boxing these past few years. Although Pac has done good he has not even come close to what ODLH has done for boxing. It is ODLH that has either participated or promoted fights with big paydays and worldwide PPV audiences. In Pac's run he has fought 7 fights against 3 men (MAB, EM & JMM) which has covered a great majority of that span. But Sugar Ray Leonard, JCC, and Duran are the true reason boxing enthusiast began to focus on the lower weights.

It is a win against this very ODLH that will allow now afford Pac to make his best pay days. The funny thing is this one ODLH will also get paid in Pac's future fights..........

Fighting a dangerous hungry young fighter. if im a champ i wouldnt dare to fight a nobody, this is boxing and anything can happen all it takes is just one punch. you dont even have to be skilled to win all you need is one punch. that wont be good for any boxers resume, to fight top opponents then lose to a nobody. No one said to fight a nobody, I said a top dangerous hungry, non battle worn fighter (Guzman, Diaz, Soto, Valero) . So this is a Nuthuggers admission to the fact Pac has been fight name brands and not current "Quality", AKA retreads !! Which reinforces Pac's continued pattern of fighting fighters coming off a loss or previous to last fight that have nothing but marquee names.

Not since MAB1 has Pac fought a fighter on a serious winning streak !!!!!!!!!!!

[Killa From Manila]

Whoever wins the first round will be the victor.

[Kel]

Whoever wins the first round will be the victor.

That's just silly

[Killa From Manila]

Whoever wins the first round will be the victor.

That's just silly

Why's that?

[Kel]

Whoever wins the first round will be the victor.

That's just silly

Why's that?

It's silly because you can't determine the outcome of a 12 round fight by who wins the first round.

[jamiebhoy]

Tommy Hearns though he had the first round in the bag against Hagler.........got his ass whupped

[Killa From Manila]

That's just silly

Why's that?

It's silly because you can't determine the outcome of a 12 round fight by who wins the first round.

If Hatton fails to stop Pac's flurry in first round, that means there aint gonna be plan B for him. HATTON ONLY FIGHTS ONE WAY.

[Spicoli]

Have been milling this for a while.Pacquiao has amassed HUGE momentum and made massive strides in career as of late.Everything is peachy coming in off 17-18 very one sided and pressure free rounds over last 2 fights.Hatton will not come through this unscaved and Mannys Left may do an early number on Hattons mug.But I think Hatton can take it and keep it very physical inside.Pacquiao has developed some nice movement in setting up offense but can be touched when backed.This is actually a very nice matchup that will be taxing on both,Hatton early and I do believe Pacquiao late.I think Hatton beats him!

[TitoFan]

Not only do I think Hatton has a good chance of beating Pacquiao... I also think he shouldn't get the credit he's gonna get for doing it. For the umpteenth time, Pacquiao is the smaller man at his natural weight. That he jumped up several weight divisions and humiliated De La Hoya (to my eternal gratification and delight), is besides the point. Oscar was a shell of his former self. Did Pacquiao's people know that BEFORE the fight? No... but that's besides the point also. What matters is that Oscar WAS shot, for the world to see. Hatton, on the other hand, is what... 30? And still near the peak of his career. And while he's far from being the world's best fighter, he's still king at 140. Why Pacquiao is so heavily favored is beyond me. But hey, I'll be rooting for Pac anyway.

[jamiebhoy]

Have been milling this for a while.Pacquiao has amassed HUGE momentum and made massive strides in career as of late.Everything is peachy coming in off 17-18 very one sided and pressure free rounds over last 2 fights.Hatton will not come through this unscaved and Mannys Left may do an early number on Hattons mug.But I think Hatton can take it and keep it very physical inside.Pacquiao has developed some nice movement in setting up offense but can be touched when backed.This is actually a very nice matchup that will be taxing on both,Hatton early and I do believe Pacquiao late.I think Hatton beats him!

Agree, the fact it has all gone well for Pacman recently will be a telling factor if Hatton starts to get through, yes everyone says Hatton will eat the left, of course he will to a certain extent and as for getting marked up sure he will , he probably brusies drying his face with a towel!!
But the question for all the huggers is can you honestly state the Pacman works we on the back foot. He moves back bobs around and throws nothing until there's a break in the attack against him, with Hatton that break may be a while in coming.I've also noticed a few of Pacs fights where he doesn't listen real well to instructions from the corner.
Won't be surprised if it goes either way but I really think it will be Hatton's night and will be interesting if so to see how Pacman bounces back from a defeat at this stage in his career.

[Gandalf]

Have been milling this for a while.Pacquiao has amassed HUGE momentum and made massive strides in career as of late.Everything is peachy coming in off 17-18 very one sided and pressure free rounds over last 2 fights.Hatton will not come through this unscaved and Mannys Left may do an early number on Hattons mug.But I think Hatton can take it and keep it very physical inside.Pacquiao has developed some nice movement in setting up offense but can be touched when backed.This is actually a very nice matchup that will be taxing on both,Hatton early and I do believe Pacquiao late.I think Hatton beats him!

Agree, the fact it has all gone well for Pacman recently will be a telling factor if Hatton starts to get through, yes everyone says Hatton will eat the left, of course he will to a certain extent and as for getting marked up sure he will , he probably brusies drying his face with a towel!!
But the question for all the huggers is can you honestly state the Pacman works we on the back foot. He moves back bobs around and throws nothing until there's a break in the attack against him, with Hatton that break may be a while in coming.I've also noticed a few of Pacs fights where he doesn't listen real well to instructions from the corner.
Won't be surprised if it goes either way but I really think it will be Hatton's night and will be interesting if so to see how Pacman bounces back from a defeat at this stage in his career.

I'm more convinced than ever that Hatton has a great shot of doing a number on Manny. We haven't seen Hatton so keyed up for a fight in a good while now, and the change in camp seems to have inspired him. He didn't balloon inbetween camps and he has gone out to the states nice and early. Manny has coasted a little with his fights against Diaz and the DLH surprise. The last time Manny was in a proper fight was a good year ago now and Marquez gave him fits. Hatton is bigger, stronger and has a lot of skills himself. I can see him stopping Manny a little like how he got Castillo out of there. Manny can move about, but once those shots land, he will crumble. He is not a junior welterweight.

[XaduBoxer]

Maybe Pac fans can help me out but I don't really see how Pac is so heavily favored in this fight. There have been numerous threads about how Pac is going to destroy Hatton and give him his worst beating ever. I don't see how that is going to happen at all. I can't even see Pacquiao winning the fight. Hatton at 140 is a fucking monster. Pacquiao has the definite edge on handspeed but that's it IMO. What is heavily underrated about Hatton is his insane footspeed and footwork. His technique and quickness is how he's able to always be on you and mugging the shit out of you. Manny WILL NOT be able to sidestep Hatton like he did ODLH, he WILL NOT. Hatton is just as fast as Manny on his feet. The only reason that Hatton even lost to Floyd was because Floyd was able to frustrate Hatton with defense and Floyd used his "size" to bully Hatton when he got tired. Then Floyd just timed Hatton and caught him. Manny will not be able to do anything like that. Hatton won't try to box with him, Hatton will mug him, and I don't think Manny's ever seen that type of pressure. I just don't see how Manny will keep Hatton off of him and I see Hatton punishing Manny on the ropes. Quite honestly, I like Manny, but if Hatton trains properly and looks he has in the past, I really think Manny will get stopped. Can someone please tell me why they think Manny is such a favorite in this fight? Outside of saying something like "because he's P4P #1". Tell me how you envision Manny winning the fight.

I consider PAC having the speed advantage (both handspeed and footspeed) over Hatton... Granting Hatton is just as fast as Manny on his feet then Hatton will NOT catch and bully Manny at all... You need to be faster than Manny and also having an excellent timing in order to catch and bully him...

[Gandalf]

Maybe Pac fans can help me out but I don't really see how Pac is so heavily favored in this fight. There have been numerous threads about how Pac is going to destroy Hatton and give him his worst beating ever. I don't see how that is going to happen at all. I can't even see Pacquiao winning the fight. Hatton at 140 is a fucking monster. Pacquiao has the definite edge on handspeed but that's it IMO. What is heavily underrated about Hatton is his insane footspeed and footwork. His technique and quickness is how he's able to always be on you and mugging the shit out of you. Manny WILL NOT be able to sidestep Hatton like he did ODLH, he WILL NOT. Hatton is just as fast as Manny on his feet. The only reason that Hatton even lost to Floyd was because Floyd was able to frustrate Hatton with defense and Floyd used his "size" to bully Hatton when he got tired. Then Floyd just timed Hatton and caught him. Manny will not be able to do anything like that. Hatton won't try to box with him, Hatton will mug him, and I don't think Manny's ever seen that type of pressure. I just don't see how Manny will keep Hatton off of him and I see Hatton punishing Manny on the ropes. Quite honestly, I like Manny, but if Hatton trains properly and looks he has in the past, I really think Manny will get stopped. Can someone please tell me why they think Manny is such a favorite in this fight? Outside of saying something like "because he's P4P #1". Tell me how you envision Manny winning the fight.

I consider PAC having the speed advantage (both handspeed and footspeed) over Hatton... Granting Hatton is just as fast as Manny on his feet then Hatton will NOT catch and bully Manny at all... You need to be faster than Manny and also having an excellent timing in order to catch and bully him...

Hatton does have excellent timing though and his handspeed isn't too shabby. Malignaggi is no slouch and Hatton hit him whenever he wanted to. Malignaggi became the huggy man in that fight and I wonder if Manny might need to resort to the same kind of behaviour once his chin is checked.

Hatton WILL catch Manny and he will hit him hard. Repeatedly. Manny probably won't get stuck on the ropes as much as Hatton would like, but Hatton doesn't rely on that. He will use his movement and extremely good footwork to close the gap and land. I look at fights like the Malignaggi one and see a fight fought mainly in the centre of the ring, Hatton gets the job done there as well.

[XaduBoxer]

Maybe Pac fans can help me out but I don't really see how Pac is so heavily favored in this fight. There have been numerous threads about how Pac is going to destroy Hatton and give him his worst beating ever. I don't see how that is going to happen at all. I can't even see Pacquiao winning the fight. Hatton at 140 is a fucking monster. Pacquiao has the definite edge on handspeed but that's it IMO. What is heavily underrated about Hatton is his insane footspeed and footwork. His technique and quickness is how he's able to always be on you and mugging the shit out of you. Manny WILL NOT be able to sidestep Hatton like he did ODLH, he WILL NOT. Hatton is just as fast as Manny on his feet. The only reason that Hatton even lost to Floyd was because Floyd was able to frustrate Hatton with defense and Floyd used his "size" to bully Hatton when he got tired. Then Floyd just timed Hatton and caught him. Manny will not be able to do anything like that. Hatton won't try to box with him, Hatton will mug him, and I don't think Manny's ever seen that type of pressure. I just don't see how Manny will keep Hatton off of him and I see Hatton punishing Manny on the ropes. Quite honestly, I like Manny, but if Hatton trains properly and looks he has in the past, I really think Manny will get stopped. Can someone please tell me why they think Manny is such a favorite in this fight? Outside of saying something like "because he's P4P #1". Tell me how you envision Manny winning the fight.

I consider PAC having the speed advantage (both handspeed and footspeed) over Hatton... Granting Hatton is just as fast as Manny on his feet then Hatton will NOT catch and bully Manny at all... You need to be faster than Manny and also having an excellent timing in order to catch and bully him...

Hatton does have excellent timing though and his handspeed isn't too shabby. Malignaggi is no slouch and Hatton hit him whenever he wanted to. Malignaggi became the huggy man in that fight and I wonder if Manny might need to resort to the same kind of behaviour once his chin is checked.

Hatton WILL catch Manny and he will hit him hard. Repeatedly. Manny probably won't get stuck on the ropes as much as Hatton would like, but Hatton doesn't rely on that. He will use his movement and extremely good footwork to close the gap and land. I look at fights like the Malignaggi one and see a fight fought mainly in the centre of the ring, Hatton gets the job done there as well.

You can't compare Pacquiao's speed to that of Maligfaggi...

Statement: Ricky Hatton was asked repeatedly how he could expect to cope with Pacquiao’s now-legendary speed and each time he had the same answer: “They said the same thing about Paulie Malignaggi, how he was too quick for me and how he was going to outbox me. And look what happened in that fight.”

Where he went wrong: Many experts did favor Malignaggi in their November fight, in which Hatton won by 11th-round TKO. Hatton’s mistake is equating Malignaggi in any way to Pacquiao. Malignaggi is a fairly quick-handed, capable fighter. However, one thing opponents often say after fighting Pacquiao for the first time is they underestimated his amazing hand speed, not to mention his foot speed. And Pacquaio’s not just a capable fighter; he’s a great fighter, perhaps one of the best ever. Like so many before him, Hatton might be very surprised on May 2.